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also being particularly dense today, ...... who am I suppose to welcome to the "Club" and more to the point what "Club" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

This will tell you all about "The Club."
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The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?
~Jeremy Bentham