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Hmm are you sure what you are saying here Nero? as far as I know Bioware made the Game and Atari distributed it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

@Lucretia, Dearest if you sent me an email, I will contact some ppl I know at Bioware and get them to contact you okay?

Atari has tech support. And Bioware too. And they suck both.

@ Mea thnx very much. I mean it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Lu, but did you do the things I have suggested, like cleaning msconfig, etc?

Egin I am sorry I didn´t. It seemed too complicated for me and I want to re-read your post, translate it correctly and then do it. To be sure that I will not make any damage in my pc. I know that you would never suggest anything bad for my pc. It is just my lack of knoledge may cause damage. If I am not familiar with something I just want to be sure that I understood the instructions.

I tend to think though that the problem is my new TFT. I don´t think that the game supports the high resolution that TFT has. This high resolution is not even supported from my graphics card.

I thank you. I will read carefully your post on weekend and try your suggestions. It would be great comfort if I could play in my fav computer which is in my comfortable desk etc. Gamming needs some comforts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Monitor refresh rate easily maybe your problem. To test this, maybe it was written already, but still.

Right click on your desctop, in a popup menue click properties -> Settings -> Advanced -> Monitor. There you can see screen refresh rate.
You may now experiment with refresh rate.
Note changing it one time will not help because it will bind chosen refresh rate to your current resolution only. This means you will have to go to
right click on desktop -> properties -> Settings

There you can see two parameters :
- Screen resolution
- Color quality

You will have to bind refresh rate to all resolutions on 16 and 32 bit separately.

This will insure you that when game loads, monitor refreshes to game default resolution your refresh rate will be the one you have chhosen.

So, take the lowest resolution. I think it is in XP 800x600 take 16 bit go to monitor settings choose 60 Hz, apply

Take 800x600 now 32 bit, then monitor settings 60 Hz, apply.
1024x768 16bit 60Hz apply
1024x758 32bit 60Hz apply
etc etc untill you bind resresh rate to highest reslolution.

Why 60hz, this is the lowest and probably the safest. You may try the same with 75Hz.

When changing refresh rates you may want to write down old rates, to compare and to restore if needed.

This is long and boring process, but this will give you an idea is there refresh rate monitor problem or not.

Good Luck, hope this helps.

without a doubt egin has the best interest in mind but before going through all that motion, try this motion & u have to sweat a bit, luc. think of it as exercise. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

i'm assuming that u also have a CRT monitor(a normal one, much like TV) which u use with your older system. CRT can manage a wide variety of resolution & TFT unfortunately doesn't as the pixels are fixed. u can always check out How Stuff Works Website for more ideas on how CRTs & TFTs work in your free time.

so u swap the monitors & see if NWN can still run on your older system while using TFT monitor.

Yes dearest I must do that. When I find some time. Thnx for the link. You are all very sweet that got into so much trouble to help me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Lu, now I have NWN in all its beauty on my machine also. It was too intriguing for me to miss this game even after all criticism.

I have absolutely stupid question. After you double click you NWN shortcut you get to main menu. Have you tried clicking configure button and changing parameters in there? Sorry, you probably done this hundreds of times.

@ Egin

Oh you are so sweet that you still try to figure out things for me. But yes I have made all the possible combinations in the configuration option... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I am still playing in my old pc and the game runs fine eventhough it is not patched. How do you like it so far? I find it a bit easy in Normal difficulty, but there is the option that I can change the difficulty so I will try that one. I really liked those cinematics with the black and white drawings. Pretty nice work!

Oh you are so sweet that you still try to figure out things for me. But yes I have made all the possible combinations in the configuration option... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Damn, there is a solution to this problem, the only thing is to find it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />


I am still playing in my old pc and the game runs fine eventhough it is not patched.

I didn't patch it also. Installed the game and both expansions. I had a feeling that overall graphics in NWN after I installed second expansion improved. Thats my opinion.

How do you like it so far? I find it a bit easy in Normal difficulty, but there is the option that I can change the difficulty so I will try that one. I really liked those cinematics with the black and white drawings. Pretty nice work!

Yeah, cineatics were nice.
As for my progress, actually I am still in the Academy.

The hardest thing is to choose the right character <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> I have started with predefined, standard sorc., but after I have looked into his stats, I tried to create custom sorc, well, will try more today, so many stats to choose from <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />. Yes, character building is aweesome. As for dialogues, they already bored me to death.
I liked graphics, spell animations. I liked characters speaking very nice abracadabra while casting spells <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
This is very well done game.

Can you suggest me how do you create a character?
Usually, when I start the game I make dumb but strong fighter. This time wanted to create powerful mage. Who is better wizard or sorceress? The only thing I know now that wiz can memorize new spells, sorc gets new spells with lvlup only.
Are there web sites dedicated to character creation? Can you recommend something? Thank you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes. HotU turns all robes to, well, robes. Before, they were blocky skintight, odd-looking things that looked like anything but robes. HotU also adds skyboxes, but I don't think you'd see any of those in the OC, since I doubt they went back and took the time to enable skyboxes in the older official campaign.



Not surprising. The dialogue in NWN OC is the weakest in all Bioware games. You'd be better served to just forget the first OC and go straight to HotU.



...haven't you played BG2 and the other Infinity Engine games?

Here's one character combo: Bard 1/Fighter X/Red Dragon Disciple 10. Why? Bard class gives you arcane spellcasting, which is needed for the RDC. Red Dragon Disciple gives you some ridiculous bonuses. By level 10, you'll end up with breath weapon III, bonuses to STR and INT (and probably more), bonuses to your armor class, darkvision, immunities to fear, paralysis and fire. Couple that with some specialized feats as a fighter, the character becomes an unstoppable juggernaut.

...not that you need any. The game's easy enough as is.

Sorcerer vs. wizard: In the long run, IMO, I didn't find a noticeable difference. There are spells that I use often and then there are spells that sit in the spellbook, collecting dust, which renders the wizard's larger range of spells to choose from rather useless. Especially now that you have 40 levels to play with. At lower levels, the wizard probably does better, as you might need specific spells to deal with specific critters (i.e., ice-based spells for a fire-based encounter and vice versa).

Thank you for your comments Winterfox.

You'd be better served to just forget the first OC and go straight to HotU.

Really? I will think about this.

...haven't you played BG2 and the other Infinity Engine games?

Here's one character combo: Bard 1/Fighter X/Red Dragon Disciple 10. Why? Bard class gives you arcane spellcasting, which is needed for the RDC. Red Dragon Disciple gives you some ridiculous bonuses. By level 10, you'll end up with breath weapon III, bonuses to STR and INT (and probably more), bonuses to your armor class, darkvision, immunities to fear, paralysis and fire. Couple that with some specialized feats as a fighter, the character becomes an unstoppable juggernaut.

Hmm. If I understand correctly you start as Bard fighter and what then? Do you dualclass it into mage? What is that RDS, class specific specialisation for Bard?
Sorry, could you please describe this?


As for Sorcerer vs. wizard you say there is no much difference between them. I will stick with Sorc then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well I always play as a sorc. but there is a difference between a Mage and Sorc which is that Mage can memorize any spell and Sorc can gain new spells only when she levels up. Not that it is no big deal but sometimes when I am in Battle my spells run off. So the advantage IMHO the mage has it that he has much more spells than a sorc. Sorc can use some spells from scrolls she finds but only for once and she can not memorize them. You should try the recomemded option while you build your char. It helps a lot. At least if you are not familiar with the D&D rules. You can check the official site of BG and NWN for some more information. I think BG is better though I think that it will spoil all the fun. You should try to descover things yourself. Building a char is not so difficult. Oh and I always am a Half Human-Elf. IMO is the best combination. You can also check the option of the familiar if the char you create has one. They are very helpfull and funny. You can feed them and replentish their health. My familiar is opening all the locks for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Yes the dialogues are boring sometimes. And as for the graphics I think that even if you install the expansion there are not any changes in the original campain.

Here is the link about NWN

hit me

HotU is almost as good as BG2 in terms of dialogue and NPC interaction, plus romances for both genders. The original OC has very little of this, as well as limits you to only one henchperson. HotU lets you have two joinable NPCs in the party, plus familiar, summoned creatures, and a certain golem. The story is also decent, if underwhelming. The quests are simply superior to the original OC. And the NPC AI is somewhat improved. In short, HotU is a quantum leap from the original OC and SoU.

KotOR still beats them all to a bloody pulp and mops the floor with them, though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />



In NWN, this is how it goes: when you level up, you can take a level in any class you choose provided that you meet the requirements. So, I creat a bard, gain enough experience to advance, and take a level in Red Dragon Disciple (which requires at least one level in bard or sorcerer). After that, I level again, and take a level in fighter. Then spend nine more levels for RDD and took the rest as fighter. Sorry if the IE reference confused you. I just take it for granted that anyone who's played the IE game would be pretty familiar with the system.

Lucretia said:



Wrong.

A wizard will always, always, run out of spells before the sorcerer. The sorcerer simply has a greater of spells per day. The advantage the wizard holds is variety of spells -- option, not frequency. Consequently, in an unprepared encounter, the sorcerer will fare a lot better. Say, you're facing a group of fire elementals. The wizard has memorized only fire-based spells that would be useless, but the sorcerer has access to all her offensive spells -- acid, electrical, or cold-based alike.



Why bother? Just bludgeon/bash the doors into piles of wood. I usually go with a panther familiar, because it can dish out almost as much damage as a rogue of comparable level. Although, in high-level game, it does become useless and is just one more canon fodder.



The robes change. You also get the obvious -- more prestige classes, more types of weaponry (see whip), etc.

A wizard will always, always, run out of spells before the sorcerer. The sorcerer simply has a greater of spells per day. The advantage the wizard holds is variety of spells -- option, not frequency. Consequently, in an unprepared encounter, the sorcerer will fare a lot better. Say, you're facing a group of fire elementals. The wizard has memorized only fire-based spells that would be useless, but the sorcerer has access to all her offensive spells -- acid, electrical, or cold-based alike.

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Since I have not played as wizard yet I don´t know much. If things are as you say so, then you are right. Sorc is better. I am glad I choose her.


Why bother? Just bludgeon/bash the doors into piles of wood. I usually go with a panther familiar, because it can dish out almost as much damage as a rogue of comparable level. Although, in high-level game, it does become useless and is just one more canon fodder.
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Exmmm for the fun of it perhaps? My familiar is a fairy. And she is doing a great job with traps too.

The robes change. You also get the obvious -- more prestige classes, more types of weaponry (see whip), etc.
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The robes are cool indeed. Especaly the one I gained from the guild I have joined in.

Er, I mean the robes' appearances. I understand that you only have SoU installed?

Yep olny that. Why?

And please note that I am still at the begining of the second chapter. I have not finished the game yet.

Right-o. I'm talking about this actual robe (http://www.geocities.com/moonstone_jp/robed.JPG) as opposed to the unrobe-like thing in the original game (http://www.geocities.com/moonstone_jp/plain.JPG). (Copy and paste on address bar. Straight linking would've resulted in an error.)

@ Winterfox: >>KotOR still beats them all to a bloody pulp and mops the floor with them, though.


We really need some more converts for this game. Come on folks, you are all missing out on jedi goodness (Or badness as the mood takes you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />)

@ Lucretia: I really wish I could help but I havent been able to add anything to what everyone else has said so far. I know how much it sucks when a game wont work.

As for the official campaign, I didnt mind it, it was a bit predictable, it wasnt a patch on PS:T or BG2, but still, it was worth playing through at least once.

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Oh I see. I wear now something like the second .jpg you have shown me. It is not like robe. It is more like a uniform. The first .jpg you have shown me is absolutely marvelous! This comes with the second expansion?