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i I was surpriced when i heard the new sample of Kirill. In the beginning it wasn't that good, but then the music was building up to a very nice mixture of sound and emotion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
but there is one thing i notist. i don't know if i'm the only one who feels this way, but i have this feeling that a lot of the "sounds", sound artificial. You can hear that it was made by a syntisizer(sp). the use of real music instruments would have sounded better Or maybe another "sound bank" of some music instruments could do the trick?
i saw on the peek of the week there were also pictures of real instruments, so it could be the processing of the real music instruments that result in this artificial-sound-feeling ? But don't get me wrong it is beautifull musik!
Any thoughts on this?
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My thoughts on your comment, spick :
- Mixing,
- Recording,
- Format
These things can have an influence on how something sounds.
Especially the format : Whether it's saved in MP3 or OGG or whatever.
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Maybe it was designed to sound a bit 'artificial', perhaps for a dream sequence, or something (though it didn't really strike me as artificial). I don't think you can extrapolate much from a single music sample, which may or may not even end up in the game, and if it does, may or may not be in its present form.
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aye! that.... do you think they're gonna give you the good stuff right off the bat?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
NO! i say they're gonna build it up...thundering slowly! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
like the sample says....it's just a sample... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />
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maybe it may sound artificial as it seems (from the pix in the latest peek o' the week) to be recorded in a studio room & not a symphony hall (like howard shore did with lord of the rings soundtracks) therefore u may not get that big ambience & reverberations that are usually present in such big room.
furthermore, the recordings for each instrument may have been done separately so to match all of them in terms of timbre, timing, clarity, the mixing has to be done & u should know mixing is something a sound engineer has to learn for years before getting it right. so i think kirill has done quite a monumental task in getting the sounds together. it may not have that orchestral effect that john williams have done with star wars (think 'duel of the fates') but it's close. keep it up, kirill. one day u'll have your orchestra. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
& i love that sampler. i wish all the music will be like that & without goth rock in it like how it was with a few tracks in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />
maybe ogg format may do it justice as ogg can expand to 5 audio channels? maybe violins can be less prominent so that other instruments can stand out & therefore making the piece fleshier. how about that?
i hope kirill can be in the forum & let us know of his work on <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> after the game's out. alrik, how about an interview? more musically inclined? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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uh,,,what's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> ? again.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
you could possibly mean <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> which used to be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> but has since been renamed to.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> which in turn makes sense, because <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> fits with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> whereas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> does not! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> so <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> became <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> ... to "fit in with the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> world... ... makes sense to me...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />
remember now..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> all the way! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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uh,,,what's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> ? again.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
you could possibly mean <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> which used to be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> but has since been renamed to.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> which in turn makes sense, because <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> fits with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> whereas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> does not! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> so <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> became <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> ... to "fit in with the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> world... ... makes sense to me...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />
remember now..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> all the way! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> It is the fault of Imprunner ! We are playing [color:"yellow"] Imprunner [/color] [color:"red"]Imprunner[/color] [color:"pink"]Imprunner [/color] And we are thinking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> This game should have been named [color:"yellow"]Impbeyond [/color] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> Beyond Impunity! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
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another 5 shrimpos for handefood! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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I think the sample sounds great! I am so looking forward to much more! How about a double CD soundtrack compilation? Ahem, marketing stratagy? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Imprunner = Run Imp! Run! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> (I.E. Forest Gump)
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this is my first time posting I thought I would reply to this since i compose/create music. I wouldn't be hard for a composer to write the Score in a program Like Sibelius then have that recorded into a Sequencer program with the eq and reverb just right and delay. You could use GPO or Giga sampler(and others), for complete realistic sounds and compress the waves to mp3. your right about the mixing and mastering of Audio though, it is simply a monumental task in it's self, and requires a lot of listening and knowing your gear that you are working with. Looks like they recorded each instrument seperately probably as it's own track then did the mixing, I am sure they then had all the mixes burned down and compressed to whatever format they wanted it to be in? mp3? mp4? who knows^_* In actuality you could do it all on your computer with samples and someone wouldnt' be able to tell the differnce, even some orchestra scores. just my little info here. I do look forward to this game. It has a unique approach to the rpg market. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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Welcome to the Forum Strangecat... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> now you are here among the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> cats... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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welcome to u as well, strangecat. may u not be a stranger for long. u sound like a very likeable fellow. hope to hear more of u here in the forum. & mandrake (a forum member) is one of our friendly cats around here.
jurak's the friendliest orc u can find.
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I'm a newcomer as well, but anyway.... Welcome to the forum StrangeCat! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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did i forget to welcome u? i'm sorry. welcome nevertheless, werner. may u enjoy the good company that i have enjoyed for more than ..... has it been one year? can't remember. so u see, time flies when u have a good time.
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To the new members [color:"orange"]Welcome to the forum <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
I have listened very careful the sample of the music and I found it great. In the begining it reminded me Hocico. I think that this music will be better even from <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />. It has power in it. I sure would like to listen to some more. 53 sec are not enough.
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that is what most girls say! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> sorry, couldn't leave that one alone! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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good one Jurak <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
hmm, I mean ooohh!! you naughty Jurak <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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hey thanks! I probably won't be replying to much or posting much since i am busy with music, infact all i will talk about is music...since it is all I am thinking about all the time LOL! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> For me I can't mix worth a crap, so my weakness is mixing and mastering music. I might write music for a game though, or try too. Have to actually make the effort to contact people though heh. Still I would like to see what this composer does for the music, bring in some timpini, some chior, brass, and some strings following the rhythm and you have your powerful emotional music^_* I could write but mixing it to commercail level I dont' think I can do yet... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> I wonder if I will even have to time to play Beyond Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />
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well, i'm sure some of us are willing to listen to your music & give whatever feedback u need. just let us know your website.
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