Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) General The Beyond Divinity Demo Thread.

Hello.

Following the announcement, the Demo will be out about next week.

So I decided to canalize everything here in this thread, impressions, suggestions, bug reports, and everything else. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

@Larian Studios : Keep up the good work ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Alrik.

WOW, I first joined when I had some problems with Divine Divinity crashing ( a year ago) ,and have been visiting these forums at least once a month, just to see what's been happening. So when I heard about Beyond Devinity demo ,I just had to log on (took me 10 minutes to remeber the pswd). High hopes that this one will be even better, I just hope there will be less huge generic boring hack and slash areas that seemed to make Divinity so monotous at some parts, not to mention the end. Anyways ,can't wait to try the demo, and if the game ends up being even half as good as Divinity , am in.

Whops, sorry for posting here, I just relized that this was meant to be an actual demo feedback thread, my applogizes.

Apology taken. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Be welcomed! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

The press release about the demo isn't listed on the BD site in the frame at the right under latest news, but should be.

tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow = big day for mankind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

One small step for a man/woman/dwarf/troll/dragon/DEATH/cat/brain/alien, one big leap for mankind/womankind/dwarfkind/trollkind/dragonkind/DEATHkind/catkind/brainkind/alienkind!

Is it tommorow already??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Ah great, now I can spend my wednesday afternoon in style <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Just hope the download server won't be overheated by all the people clicking that link on 12.00!

Ok ,the DEMO will be released on 12:00PM on 3/3/2004 right ? ==> does this mean the coming night at 00:00:01 ? this is Wednesday night afterall ... ?

Since 12:00 PM (Post Meridiem) , would mean that this would be 12 hours after wednesday noon , so Thursday Night . . .

What did they mean ? Does anyone know for certain ?

Ok , now i'm really confused , i just posted a reply and the post time stated : 03/02/04 01:02 PM . . . .
it's 20:05 here in Belgium (where Larian resides) , what time zone will they use ?

it's probably on belgium time...hopefully....the forum has universal time huh?

I don't know for certain but i would say that 12:00 PM is 1h in the afternoon tomorrow.
Now is 7h45 PM or 8h45 in the evening.
I have to wait about 16 hours (plus 6 hours for downloading)

can't wait <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Drake,

I think you're right , i'm just not used to using the AM/PM system . . . tomorrow at noon ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks

I'll be waiting in line 1 hour ahead of time.

If they'd have said 12:00 it would have been less confusing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[digression] For the record, 12:00AM is midnight, 12:00PM is midday. Mind you, did you know that 24:00 (midnight at the END of the day rather than the midnight at the START of the day) is also a valid time according to international time standards. One (just one) of my digital clocks in the house goes to 24:00 at midnight! Freaks me out every time I see it!

Anyway, roll on tomorrow - only 12 hours to go until download time! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

(Or maybe, 12 hours to go until frustration time because everyone else is downloading it at the same time...)

The demo is availeble @ www.spelletjesgarnaal.be. Unfortunatly it's a pay site.

Huh? I doubt it's legitimate. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Yes it is. The owner of the site also works @ Larian and that's why he got the demo first.

that sucks!



LARIAN! we want it now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> without paying! I'll pay for the game (if i dont win it) okay?!

Thanks for the answer.
Have we to register and pay for downloading the demo ?
I am disappointed because i would have liked to let the PC run during the night for downloading the demo.
I think i have to wait until tomorrow. About 11 hours !

well [nocando]!


edit: whew, nocando's

this [nocando] sucks! I cant pay! I have no money! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> I cant pay for a demo. ill need to wait!

It's just a pay SITE. You don't pay for the demo only.
Guess folks outside Belgium have to wait till tomorrow. it'll be a long night. Hope it's worth the wait. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

As I understand, it's available at noon GMT on 3-Mar-04. Which means 11:00pm locally after taking daylight savings into account. Another late night...

I'd say: go get some sleep. Since it's finished you'll certainly get it tomorrow.

YIPEE!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" />

well, I want to play it immediatly. meaning waking at 3;55

patience is VIRTUE. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />

NOT FOR ME! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

A guy who murdered his family and turned into a mountain, I doubt Patience is his strongest point <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> lol.

You sure got that right!

*Proudly* I am always right...
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.....
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Except when I am wrong <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

but when does THAT happen?

wow slow board right now.....

that never happens....must be a lot of "lurkers" out there tonight....
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

yep. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> everyone getting a little extra sleep <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

*Garrett the thief runs by, knocking a random victom*
Hmm, you're probably right, Jurak.

Can I conclude that we should start a new thread to get REAL remarks about the demo instead of having to hear impatient people rambling around about time-zones? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />
Just to help you out before this thread is closed and deleted :

World Clock

Sorry, got carried away a bit.
Yes, it's better to do it after at least someone downloaded and played the demo.
I'm going to bed. Over and out.

Well, this is maybe a real remark :

I read on the forum of the "Spelletjesgarnaal" that a person went through the demo in one hour!! 1 hour for Act 1...djeez. If this is true this seems really quick. Is this possible or did this guy just tried to make me worry... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I guess I'll find out in a couple of hours...

PS : 12:00 GMT is 1 o'clock in the afternoon in Brussels (13:00). I just heard some people saying that it would be available in Belgium at noon. Actually it will be one hour later.

I believe the demo includes the early part(not entire part) of ACT 1. If it's in this case one hour is fair amount of time to clear it for some rusher. Of course I cloud be wrong...

Yup demo is only a little part of Act 1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

maybe he ran through it all, without thoroughly savoring it's flavor! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />!

Yup for sure <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I was there on spelltjesgarnaal... I wanted to download it with sms-paying...
Can that only be done out of belgium...Does anyone now the url <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />... im sick of that paying but cant pay b*llsh*t

Moeha <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Nice pun, Cloudia <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

aw heck! away for 2 days & all hell broke loose! why am i always the last one to knw about all these? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

oh well, i'm getting the demo is the full game doesn't reach malaysian shore quick enough. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It's really out now. First mirror up at worthplaying

Demo BTW

It's btw not a huge chunk of act 1, it's just the beginning i.e. a small chunk <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Lar

Damn it. I cannot download it till tonight, I'm at work today. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

wow, nice !!
thanks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

Download started...

Just so you know, GetRight doesn't work with any of the available download sites.

maybe u should try customising the download to single thread & maybe it will work.

thank GOD for DSL. just got up again 5 minutes ago, and downloading 12% already! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

not just need to wait!

woops, 14 now.

Only 10 min left to complete the download.
but i have to leave for work in 11 min.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> Mmm, 1 minite to install the demo and play it?

AAArgh,

scenario:
A) go to work with my bicicle.
ride for 1 whole houre.
in the mean time dreaming on my "stearing wheele" about the wonders within the demo.
B) then go to work realising this last for 8 houres..aarg.
C) getting frustrated after 4 houres, realising every body else is probably playing the demo already.
D)finished work and have to bike 1 houre again to go back home.
riding just in a -strait line- between work and home.
trough fields and buildings only with one word in my head repeating "demo demo demo" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

lol. dont hurt yourself, but i just finished and played it, and it wasn't that great, or anything. I mean, it just said 90% more. then later. 91% more. but now its at 88^ more or 2 mins left, so hmmm. what to do?

wait a minute! I haven't played it, Im just hyped up from downloading it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Works with Atrip.

Like I said in another post: great (very great:)) demo but short <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I really hope this isn't the full act1. And if it is so, lets hope the others are way longer!

Well, I'm just downloading <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> now. Woo!!

Xaerez -> It's not the full act 1, it's not even a large part of act 1. In fact, it's not even half act 1. Just ask Lar. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good to hear!

I know its a very small part of act1. (i'd say about 1/5 of the act).

REALLY good to hear! Now it gives me another look on the game. Thought this was the full act 1 (way to short). I'm just a little bit scared for the play-duration of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" />. I hope it's not too short because of worktime...

Greetings!

Ok played the demo (finished in 1/2 hour <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> )

Some things:
1. Way to short!!
2. Nice atmosfeer
3. Nice quests (there are 3 in demo).
4. Voice could be better at certain points.

Thats about it for now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes it was short, but a very good teaser. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> will be worth the wait.

I havent tried it yet,m but i'm downloading it now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

omg I LOVE the character animations! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

yes, they were very good.

quick question: has any one forgotten the refex to save often?

I lost it
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

I like it when they kick the rats to death

the what?? quick save??? conrtol s, i think.


though i redo it to F12 in divinityy.


is that what you mean?

when does this rat tyhing happen everyones talking about!!!!


er, i have no clue. its driving me crazy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

just that I was near the end of the demo when I opened a cage with a ghost in it that killed me. Then realized I hadn't saved <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

ahh
that sucks. oh well. just another reason to play it over again!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Actually in this game I saved almost every 5 minuts, every time I opened a door I saved.

Just go hostile on rats, and watch when your characters attack; they will kick part of the time. For the rats in the cell east of Edmond's, either the hero or DK have to enter and go at least half way into the cell.

ahh, thanks Kiya. oh, and Raze, thanks you too.
i got em. pretty funny, kicking rats. now i beat all the quests. i thought it was weird because the first time i went in the cell, nothing happened. i needed to go after he said Im not dead.

As I said
game == beyond great. But theire are a couple of faults that I have discoverd. I hope these are helpfull in making the final game better.

1. select all keyboard button & priority button.
I realy hate that every time I need to select all my chars I have to move my mouse aaaaaaaallllllll the way to the other side of the screen to press that button. A keyboard button would be helpfull here.

2. Voice acting => needs work (sorry guys but just MHO) Is theire even a way to silence the voices. I can't stand that DK.

3. pathfinding isn't always on target. I wanted to lift a lever and he walks out the room behind the wall to to lever and can't touch it, while I clearly had the mouse pointer on the lever.

4. not so much an issue in the demo but when theire are more chars a formation would be nice. You know first the warriors, then the mages, than the survivors.

5. this just an observation but when I read the interview theire was talk about comlicates AI tactics. Since this is the beginning of the game I saw very little of it. I always play with mage/warrior and furgus has no chance agianst my mage. All braun and no brain sort of speak.

6. Is theire a way to move the minimap? i am used of having it in my lower left corner. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

7. battles. Ok now that we're with 2 the pause button is being used a lot more. But the actual battle seems a bit slow. Is this because the speed skillpoints are a bit low or something else but a tiny bit faster wouldn't hurt. The pause buttons allow it.

8. little hint: more pictures with skill system please. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />


But don't be mistaken the demo is great and ooooooooow sooooooo gooooooooood
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

i feel sorry for the actor who did the DK's voice, everyone says hes bad and all. I personally like it, or at least dont hate it.

what do you mean by slow battles???


and cant you click and drag the minimap??/
hmm.

yes, i like it not so in the middle of the screen, but i dont really need it. NOW. but probably in the real game i will <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

The voice is great but it just doesn't fit the DK. Its more of a robotic sound.

As for the speed of battles. I use the pause buttons so much that most of the tme i pause and switch attacks when the prevous attack is still going on. With furgus for instance I had som problem with the DK. I tried switching weapons most of the time but I was to fast for my own good. Strange thing is that for tha mage it is just perfect (maybe because he uses ranged attacks.)

how do you use mage??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />


i never had any spells in the begiining? or do you wait to level up??


and are the warrior spells always worrking? the ones that do more damage? or do i have to use em?

passive, thats it! are they passive?



yes, its a great voice. maybe use it for another character? i dont think i voice like that should be wasted, it just doesn't fit the context. but its okay. i dont mind it, just if you can do anything 'bout it.
or is to late??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

You can adjust the voice volume, though this effects all voices.

Click on the edge of the mini-map to move it, on the artwork. Clicking on the mini-map itself, you can order your characters somewhere (areas you have covered) with much less clicking.

Starting skills availability are determined when you choose the skill types for your characters. For warriors, this includes the passive 'melee | one handed | slashing | damage/accuracy/etc' and other options. Edmond can teach you an elemental missile attack. You need to get to level 2 before being able to use any skills, though, so you start off melee.

On the edge <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> I haven't tried that. Tnx Raze.

@lews I was level 3 when I met fergus.

I've heard the rumor that the German Demo doesn't have any voiceacting at all, so I can't say anything to this until the full game (supposed this is true) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

The DK's voice wasn't great, but it was acceptable.

The worst voice acting was from the soldier on the west side of the prisons. He's got a lisp and it makes him sound so harmless and peaceful, even though he's supposed to be a though prison guard from another dimension. Pretty sad the way he says "Oh yes yes, you will leave this place... in a wooden box". It makes him about as fearful as a little bunny wunny.

The best voice acting is the prisoner in the top-left prison, you know, the one that thinks you're a demon and doesn't want you to eat his crunchy pieces (or what was it again?). Brilliant <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

thanks all.


and the ranger in the room of the men who think your gideon, his voice is WAY to high and frightful for a guard.

also, yes, the same one you talked about Tovi. that guy says it way to fast.

you will leave here, yes, in a wodden box.

or whatever. or, feet first.

WAY to fast. and it shouldn't be hard to fix him right? just one guys voice? three lines to be recorderd.

Well, maybe he HAD to go to the military ? But in his heart he isn't a soldier ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

oh, yeah, i didn't think of that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I haven't got into the game yet, because, while I generally don't care much about graphics (though that's not an issue since the game looks great graphiclly) the one thing I am bothered by is aliasing. And anti-aliasing isn't working on this. I use a Radeon 9600, and if I set aliasing to application preference and check the "FSAA" box in the Beyond Divinity config box, then I go in, and, judging from the model that it uses for creating your charecter, it's not working. I go back to config and sure enough the FSAA box is unchecked- it unchecks it when I launch the game. I tried setting my card to 6x AA, but that didn't work either. Anyone know why this demo doesn't work with AA and if it can be fixed?

welcome to the forums! sorry, i wish i could help, but i dont know what FSAA IS! or what you want to happen. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

It's here! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />

I want to know if there will be a cinematic scene preceding the beginning of the game. It doesn't have to be 3D and all that like in the the first game; if it used the in- game graphics it would be fine. But it's very weak story-telling if this is the actual beginning of the game - you just start out in the dungeon with only a few sentences from the death-knight to tell you what is going on. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
At least include the backstory in the manual.

Well that's my gripe, and hopefully it's unjustified. I love the actual demo. I don't have any complaints about the voice acting or graphics or control or any of that. And I'm trusting all the little imperfections will get polished up in the next month or so. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Don't worry. You'll get your Intromovie as well as a backstory.

Thanx for all your comments, they are truly helpful for us in polishing up the final game. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

I see only 2 main problems:

1.) Not being able to set up keys to scroll east/west/north/south.
2.) It is VERY hard to move anything. Sometimes it works right away, sometimes it takes 15 attempts. Examples are barrels/chairs/garbage..picking up decapitated heads..hands. I cannot figure out why this happens, and I've played around with it for a long time trying to find a common occurrence when this happens. I'd say it's a pain to move/grab normal items at least 75% of the time. I've tried it in every resolution of the game.

FSAA = Full Screen Anti-Aliasing. Basically it smooths out the jagged edges of graphics making them look better in theory.

I haven't played the demo yet, but in Divine Divinity:
1.) Press CAPS-LOCK or hold SHIFT and use the mouse to scroll the screen.
2.) Click on or next to the object to get as close as possible before trying to move it. The object must be glowing white, not red, before you can move it.

I hope this helps and sorry if it doesn't!

1.) I don't want to use the mouse to scroll the screen at all. I want to be able to do it with my left hand while using the mouse cursor to go over items.
2.) I know how to move the items and that they have to be white. The problem is, even when you are close and they are white, they refuse to move half the time.

Thanks anyway.

Did I miss this, or is there no way to auto-attack? DD had some way that you could control-click or something to automatically attack the nearest enemy so you didn't have to constantly chase them with your mouse. I see no way to do this in BD. Also, how do you auto-select your whole party, is there no shortcut for this? Clicking that button is a nuisance. However, the demo is very fun and the graphical additions are great!

auto-attack => CTRL+ target with mouse click, left or right (depending on your primary/secondary skill). As long as you see the enemy bar, the chars will attack. Magic has to be clicked over and over again - weapon combat is done automatically with one left click.
Auto-select party => TAB (control keys)

That's not much of an auto-target considering you have to hold down ctrl then click on the target. Or can you just click anywhere? Didn't try it myself.

click anywere. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


even my comments Marian??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


thanks Dorito

ok I finished the demo, it was way to short comparing to DD demo. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />
but overall feeling about the demo is that the full game would be great !
anyway two things I'd like to comment

- as for the DK's voice...I hope his voices are more deep and tough to matching for his dark look. His grunt and death sounds during the battle are excellent and give me some dark and gruesome feeling...but voice tone in the actuall conversation seems a bit light and little. give him some "Tougher" voice plz.

- character modelling....I actually have not much complaints about this but it would be great at least main characters(including DK) have more poly counts for better look. I presume all the guys in this forum know upcomming action RPG "SACRED", it's demo also came out a little ago. I was amazed when I saw character models especially female character "Seraphim", beautiful and very female feel and "SEXY". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> Frankly I was disappointed with the female model in the BD demo, she dose not look like female for me.(especially I don't like her Big Foot) I hope the main character models have more poly in the full version.

great job Larian ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

* arghhh..it's too hard to use English which is not my natural language.

korean??

Bingo!

ahh. thought so. have you ever said that anywere? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

not really.