You are all such newbies to rpg. I long for the
days when In school we played D&D with a Dungeon
master. Our dies (read dice only one used)
had 2,4,5,6,8, 10, 15, 25, 50, 100 sides to them.
Aint plastic wonderful. We even dressed up like
our characters. Got them from a costume maker.
How ever in keeping with the sprit of rpg and
technology. ALL rpg's are based on the standard
D&D rules. So that said Oldies but goodies
From the FORGOTTEN RELMS SERIES.
Eye of the Beholder 1 2 and 3.
One- is some what hard. Two- Marvelous a classic.
Three- good game TRY TO KILL THE GIANT LOL
it will take you at least 20 to 30 tries.
I couldnt do it under 50 tries. And you
will love to figure out how to kill the
baslick with out getting shot at your self.

Pools of Radience: good classic
As a side note: you will marvel at the animation
possible with 20 year old programming code.
(all hexidecimal)

For single player rpg ( more if you want )
Jeff Vogel's Series. I think he changed the titles
to atrium. But not sure. If you want a very
hard game try the original Zork series.
All words no pictures LOL.

I have played some the games you mentioned in
your list. Most are a shoot em up kill on sight
type. bUT i will vote for at least one.

FYI: Divine divinity out ranks those by miles.
IMHO!

respectfully
syrholmes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />