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Hi there,

inspired by a discussion in the German Help/Tips/Triks Forum and a request of myselve, I want t ask if it's may be possible to hide spoilers by a simple UBB Code.

I think some people (including me) prefer more to give hints first on peoples questions to there questsproblems or how to go further in the story of there game, instead of simply saing the whole solution. And for me it's the same in the other way. I more like getting just a hint what to do next instead somone tells me the whole story.

Well to keep a long story short:
Why isn't there the possibillity to hide youre answer and only if the reader want to see it, it is showen. You simply need a MouseOnOver - MouseOnOut Class Example: You difine a UBB Code like So the text inbetween is coverd by a black bar and only if you slide youre mouse over the bar you can read the text.

Well just a suggestion!

Cheers
HPS

You can always use this for now.

[color:37485A] text [/color]

Yep what Morbo said
**Spoiler
[color:"#37485A"]spoiler [/color]
[color:"#37485A"]more spoiler [/color]
[color:"#37485A"]even more spoiler [/color]
**End spoiler

(Highlight the lines between **Spoiler and **End to view spoilers)

Yes that's howe I do it now, but its not the same, because you still see the text!? so if I scroll dowen to read the next answer I automaticly will read this text cross <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Well, there's a basic problem : a spoiler is only a spoiler in the eyes of the reader, not necessarily of the poster.

How bout ß

Yes that's right Alrik! The danger is then that suddenly everything is covert with a black bar <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
But as seen in an other forum it's working quite well there!
(I don't compare to other forums! This one here is by far the best i've seen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

Well no HPS, you do not see the text even if you scroll down you have to click/drag between spoiler and end spoiler to see the text.

In the Divine Divinity English Help Section the things are really well done.

There are separated topics for each spoiler quest or group of quest and sub quests.
Lynn has collected all the links to these topics in one thread.
There is a special thread for spoilers, a special thread for maps, a special thread for skills.

When somebody answers to a question he can give just a few hints or/and give a link to a spoiler or a map.

If you don't want to read the spoiler, you don't open the link, that's all.

Barta

@Morbo, Warhammer
Ohh now I see, the coulercode is the couler of the backround!
Verry clever! Good Idear! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

@Barta
Thats a good solution as well. But I think it will be less work to implement a new class (UBB Code) than sort out the treads like that (in the german section it's not like in that as in the english one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> )

Well I am an evil mastermind that tries to take over the world.MUHAHAHAHA

the problem is remembering the color code. So idd it would be best if theire was the [spoiler] tag.

and much more easyer than the onMouseOver thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Two words: post-it notes
(or is it three ?)
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I once put forward the idea of adding the spoiler colour to the pallette at the bottom of the reply screen, but nothing ever came of it.

Testing...

Just the word spoiler and some text, should do nothing.

The word [spoiler with a [ in front of it.

Edit : added a <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> tag around all of this :
---
The word <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> enclosed in a [ and ]
Closing the tag : </span> <- closed it.
---
Here the edit ends </span>.

And again, <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> not closing it at the end of the post. -> the end </span>

Edit : testing the edit function
Another spoiler added in edit : <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>this is a spoiler</span>.

Edit : testing editing the edit.

Edit : checking nested spoiler tags after 2 edits. For fun, <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> an unclosed spoiler tag in the edit. The end.</span>

Hm, yes seems to hold together alright.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> yes it does seem to hold together <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
great work <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

hey wher did my text go??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
</span>
here it is. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> I see said the blind man. Thanks rat, this makes this easy.</span>

spoiler [ idontgetit }

put spoiler inside [ ] and end it with [/] with spoiler on the in side

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>Then you throw the egg at the moose.</span>

I don't see the point. How is this any better than just writing it?

EDIT: Okay, that's strange... When the page first loaded, all the spoilers were visible as normal text. When I previewed this, it was normal text. Since I posted it, it's invisible.

I like the end result! Now was that a bug or some random error?

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>
And than I go and spoiled it all by saying something stupid..
</span>
Cool Rat! Thanks a lot for it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>Test </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> just testing </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>beyond divinty should be out now.</span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>This thread reminds me this one which is already locked !
Question about fonts</span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> thanx Rat! This makes the life of helpers easy! </span>

Hours before thread gets locked?

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>
I think 24 hours.
</span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> No, Lynn will give us to the end of the, if it gets closed at all.</span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> i still don't get this [/] </span>

well... you don't NEED to use the spoiler tag you know

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>bla</span>

Cool ! Now we need it to be implemented in the opposite area where the smileys are located, so *everyone* can use it ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Who are you talking about Alrik?

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>Lews perhaps</span>

I mean when you are posting, below and right of the Form.

I know. I was talking about the

*everyone*

comment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> English version has GONE Gold. just in case you did not notice the announcement</span>

About hints, someone should make a universal hint system entry: http://www.uhs-hints.com/

It's a sortof website with walkthroughs, but the thing is, you don't actually get solutions, but hints on solving a certain part of the game. Like a quest. The quests can be categorized, and each quest can have multiple hints. You start off with vague clues, and end with exact descriptions. The player can then choose how much hints he wants to see.

For instance, in Divine Divinity you have the poison barrel quest on the farmlands. You could have these hints in the following order:


1) You have to establish what you're looking for. Think: what could possibly be making the crops unnaturally glowing green?
2) Poison. You're looking for poison.
3) Since the crops were poisoned suddenly overnight, they still have to be nearby. Explore the farmlands.
4) The poison is probably hidden. Look for good hiding places.
5) Caves are good hiding places.
6) There's a cave to the south of the farmlands.
7) The orc you kill in the cave was carrying a key.
8) Keys open doors. Doors are usually located inside buildings.
9) Since the orc was carrying the key, there's probably another hiding place for poison. So you're still looking for poison.
10) Check nearby buildings. Namely the ones with alot of rooms for storage.
11) The blue boar inn has rooms.
12) Check the basement.
13) The owner might know more about this.

...

You get the picture don't you?

Just look at other games on that site, although some are ver poorly done, there are some really good ones aswell.

You don't need the [/]. The rest of what you wrote is fine.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> like this?

I really don't unederstand <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

can someone use it with a no UBB thread stuff?


THANKS ALOT MORBO!!!

and Viper, it automatically does the spoiler tag <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> </span>

I was only joking lews.

How to use the spoiler tags:

[spoiler]this will be invisible[/spoiler]
this will not be invisible



Hope this helps lews ;)

like I said before.... not everything has to be in the spoiler color... I'm tired of selecting everythin

@Viper
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On a serious note. If there is a spoiler or spoiler request warning in the subject. (like: SPOILER: Where is this or that quest item.) I see no need in hiding the answer.

~Now was that a bug or some random error? ~

Your client was probably caching the stylesheet, which didn't contain a definition yet for the .spoiler class.

Fair enough. I've had no problems since. Thanks for that!

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> just trying it out. Thanks Rat! </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> test </span>

Instant UBB Code added.

Yeeeaahn now it's n00b friendly.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> works fine </span>

whats different now?

It now appears down the bottom of the message editor screen so you just need to click it.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>oh YEA! edit thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /></span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> thanks Rat, you're the best </span>

Awwww... Rat must feel really spoiled by us all...

<slaps self for such a bad pun> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> Thanks Rat, this is great work! </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> this is great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> enough with the spoilers already.... oops <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> i can't get my game till May 1st. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> </span>

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>Don't feel bad Jurak, I won't recieve mine until the second week in may </span>

aww... stop being sourpussies. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> i'll be getting mine only around july. so cheer up, dudes. it's worth the wait. repeat after me; later date, less bugs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

depends janggut, it's not because the game gets in some country 2 months later that that version has less bug than in another company cause imho it's same gold version. only more patches may be released by then