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#226546 05/05/04 06:02 PM
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Your example still doesn't hold water.


I personally belive it does. You don't need the accuracy skill with a weapon to connect anyway, just pump agility. I'll try it out when I'm finished with spellforce and hopefully prove my point. (May be a few weeks)
You'll also be damn sure you'll see some sort of guide from me too and not just endless whining.

So stay tuned.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


Spellforce is a great game. I hope Larian checks out Spellforces use of the 3d graphics and the fabulous way the camera angle works as well as the camera control as a whole. With Divinity 2 going 3d, it wouldn't hurt to check out Spellforces camera use. That was one long, fun game. PS: I haven't whined in the least, it's just sometimes difficult to get your point across to people that haven't thought the skill system out thoroughly yet. It's quite obvious that you're guessing everytime you make a decision on skills.

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Hah! At last we agree on something! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Spellforce is indeed cool.
You may not think you're whining but it comes across as such. That said, I do apologise for the extreme tone I use sometimes.

I will prove the skill system is good however..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />


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#226548 05/05/04 10:17 PM
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I voted Potatoe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> The new system is ok but I would have preferred a refinement and expansion of the DD system.

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I still don't know what to vote - can those, wishing for more skill pts, explain their ideas, please?
I just loaded a German save into the 1.4 English version and saw how stats change with the alchemy permanent potion lvl skill (extract). Are you sure, you need more skill points then? (I had a save from act 4) In act 1 she teaches it up to lvl 2, will have to check the other acts, too.

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If more skill points are the solution (I would still rather see a return to the DD skill system myself) then how about a skill point (or a 50% chance for a skill point) as a reward for completing quests (remember the old Diablo "Your reward is the training in a skill of your choice"?). Or possibly a skill point for killing BF dungeon bosses - that would make the BattleFields more appealing to those who have posted that they don't really use them much.

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YEAH! thanks, Grim - I just made up my mind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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I voted in favor of the skill system, modified to provide more skill points. As it currently stands, it seems as though we have far enough points to deal with the "necessities," and precious few to deal with experimentation--which is much of the fun about skills, anyway. To be sure, if you continually battle eternally regenning, boring monsters, you'll grow old and grisly enough to have all the points you need. But most of us want those skill points earned within a reasonable period of time. DD had the mix just about right. BD's still got a way to go.

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YEAH! thanks, Grim - I just made up my mind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Would you care to elaborate ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" />


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FWIW, IGNs reviewer (see announcement) definetely had several gripes with the skillpoint system too. He covered the points more elequently that I ever could.



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FWIW, IGNs reviewer (see announcement) definetely had several gripes with the skillpoint system too. He covered the points more elequently that I ever could.


Normally I find IGN reviews are junk, and Kasavin's reviews at Gamespot excellent. But the IGN BD review was by far the best of the bunch. They covered the flaws very well, but still gave it a decent 8.0 - or 9.0 when the problems are resolved.
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Why do so many people complain about the balance of the skills in BD and say they want it like in DD? DD's skills were very unbalanced either, the best summon wasnt even in the summoning line of wizards. Some weapon specialties were obviously better than others. And even in DD you had to guess what equipment you're most likely to get since if you specialise in different weapon types you still use only one so you wasted skill points that could have gone into some more useful skills.

Personnaly I think BD's skill system is very good. I admit it's not superbly balanced, but it's ok. My mage was doing great with his different spells. He had the hammer, a air spread missile (can hit the same ennemy multiple times if you're far enough), a fire and earth spell, and some healing capabilities. Against mutiple foes I used hammer to stun them and spammed my spread missile and against one tough ennemy I just stunned him and used my fire&earth spell.

It's a great skill system IMO.


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#226557 08/05/04 08:07 AM
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Been playing on tactical and I have on level 6 or 7 six skill points free to put into skills. I have no trouble getting trough the dungeon. I am just waiting till my mage gets a more powerfulll spell (shaman magic). while my Hero is waiting for some more skill trees melee and alachamy.

So it's true what they say you don't have to use all you skill points at one.

the thing I miss in the skill system is the wow effect. Witch makes 40% of the skill system for me.

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