Larian Studios Forums General Chat RPG Chat does any rpg have this storyline?

well, let me see: diablo 1 to diablo ii lod, divine divinity, dungeon siege, baldur's gate series, icewind dale ii, neverwinter nights & all of its expansions, sacred, and some other rpg's i may have missed. they all have you the player starting out as a hero, sometimes unknowing, but always managing to save the world from some evil. sometimes you do it for gold, sometimes because you have been asked to just do it, sometimes because your character just hates evil.

has there been an rpg that has the hero vanquishing evil because of love instead of personal glory or gold? maybe his/her love has been killed by evil or kidnapped by someone evil and he/she has to rescue him/her.

could somebody have any idea what rpg has that kind of a storyline? i would love to play that game. the closest i have ever did that was neverwinter nights. i did all of those stupid quests and killed all those hideous monsters out of love for lovely, lovely lady aribeth and not because i wanted to save neverwinter nights from the plague. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

" to find riches, that is the dream of beggars, paupers, ahh...but to find true love, that is the dream of kings." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

For fluffy love stories, look to Japanese RPGs. Final Fantasy is one such.

In KotOR, you could also argue that the PC... does certain things out of love.

thanks winterfox. can't play on my old ps as it has, errr, retired, already. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i think a plot involving love doesn't have to be "fluffy". a solid storyline is all that's needed. i just thought that in rpg's, too often the hero sets out to save the world. how 'bout saving his own personal world this time?

I'm all for personal stories.

Have you played PS:T? Sure, the hero's tale ends up spanning various planes, but at the heart of it, it's a very, very human, very personal story.

I think PS:T (Planescape's Torment) is the most unique RPG I've ever played. And it quite diverse depending on the choices your character makes. I loved the storyline and it's the only game that made me laugh until I cried. Some of the NPC's lines were just too hysterical. And I think it's a game that's got a lot of heart, despite its atmosphere.


Faralas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" />

Yup, "unique" is the word. PS:T has some technical and gameplay flaws, but it's one of the few games whose pluses eclipse the minuses enough for me to enjoy it as much as I did.

i've also read a lot of good things about ps:t. however, i can't find it in out local computer store. the only way i can buy it is online, but i'm not too keen about disclosing my credit card no. on the internet.

when was ps:t released? i suppose it's a relatively old game, seeing that i can't find it now.

Not only is it old, but it's also no longer produced. Your only bet is probably EBay, or if you're very lucky, bargain bins.

I have got two copies of PS:T; what can I say? *grins*

i would really love to experience a very personal rpg, too. i guess that's why the baldur's gate series is so well-loved and so popular. while the storyline is epic, yet it ultimately involves your own personal background, your mysterious past. not exactly about love, but those are the types of games that are truly engrossing to play, and the ones that will linger in your memory long after you've killed the final boss.

hehe. well that explains why i can't find it now.

Well, my personal opinion is the following :

Introducing the element of Love in RPGs is relatively new - at least from my own point of view which is set by a relatively short RPG career (started with the Nordlandtrilogie).

The makers of BG saw that it fit quite nicely - especially in the eyes of the players. Maybe it was just an experiment, I don't know. But the result is clear : It introduced a new element into the role-playing (at least C-RPGs, I expect Love as an elöement in P&P role-playing to have been there outside H/S all of the time) and players like it so much that every now and then remarks / suggestions of incorporating this element into Larian's RPGs pop up, often referring towards BG.

Considering what role-play in its core is, the game The Sims is also kind of a role-play, at least insofar as you can control characters like in "real" RPGs. I know that this game lacks nnearly everything that has a "real" RPG, but it's still about socialization.

This, and Love as elements in RPGs ... you could attract people who like to do socializing in(to) an RPG (look at the sales of The Sims), but every "hard-core" RPG player would probably moan.

Especially from the *huge* H/S fraction (Blizzards D2) I would expect irritation. From others as well ( I remember a heated discussion I had started about gender roles in Gothic I at the JoWood Forums, the german publishers of Gothic).

My personal opinion is tht socializing and love are definitively elements C-RPGs often lack and could provide "deeper" role-playing, apart from H/S.

Torment is the best game ever.

@ Winterfox. Is it the first time Lady Winterfox is not criticising things? I couldn't agree with you more. Really, good words. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Love in rgps may be all well and good, but I'd like to see a reverse story instead of the usual 'Hero vanquishes evil etc etc'

I'm not sure if it's been tackled (I cant recall this) but I'd like to see something like
'lowly servant of a kingdon wants to rule said kingdom (or world)' and you plot to acheive this. But through a decent rpg with quests and npcs, deceiving people, murder of the right people etc...

Combat would require a lot of thought though...it's easy to be good and chuck loads of monsters at the player...but vice versa it'd have to be different...

I'd say... Quest for Glory. Any.
You start as a hero, yes, but the hero just got out of the Hero Academy and tries to prove himself. Also, QfG 4 and 5 have true love (hell, in QfG 5 you can marry at the end of the game). I once had it but since I was young, I sold it... I know I should've never had. I still have QfG Anthology (1,2,3,4).

Final Fantasy VIII was all about love. It wasn't a terribly good game (a case of lots of good parts coming together into a less than stellar whole), but the entire conceit was that love drove the plot and actions of the main characters.

You should still be able to find it for the Playstation 1, and if you're very lucky (?), the PC version. It can get boring at times, but it's worth playing through once for the characters - Laguna Loire remains one of my favourite all-time video game creations.

-F.

It would surely make for a much needed change, questing for love is afterall something just about everyone could relate to, wether its romantic love, or love for a friend or family member, it would bring in a fresh breath of air instead of the old quest for love of country and noble cause. How about greed and riches, the old fame and fortune???

Grandia II had a hero who was only in it for the money. Unfortunately, it also had a laughably bad script, cliched characters and little going for it except a remarkably fun combat system.

-F.

Vampire: The Masquerade. Nothing but love. In fact, the hero doesn't even care about what happens arround him. The evil endings are nifty (although easier than the good one). You can just drain the evil guy dry and kill everyone arround.

has vampire: the masquerade been released already? i thought it was still in the development stage.