@xAcesx - maybe you can enlighten me. I just read an article that the British Parliament plans a law about copyright - and that it will be very close to the American DMCA. Can you tell me, if it is already valid, please? Seems to be stricter than the EU law <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Kiya

http://www.out-law.com/php/page.php?page_id=copyrightlawchange1067603633&area=news

forget my question - it is valid <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

but what I still not have found is this => which law is "stronger" => EULA or the copyright law? So, if EULA is inconsistent - is this cp law then the correct one or not? don't know how to phrase it.

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With the coming into force of the new rules, the original purchaser, or anyone who "knowingly and without authority removes or alters electronic rights management information" can now be taken to court by the copyright holder.


this deals with tools allowing to crack protection, hm?

[color:"yellow"]@edit[/color] => I was not sure, if the EU law had the same validation for your country - or if you have extra regulations <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - I tried to read the official Parliament text - but my English is too poor for this.


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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_User_License_Agreement

don't worry, this text is in German - but I can try to translate the part, I find very, very interesting:
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Obwohl diese Verträge oft sehr "offiziell" erscheinen, haben sie in Europa meist keine Gültigkeit: Der Vertrag über die Nutzung der Software wird nämlich schon beim Kauf geschlossen, zu diesem Zeitpunkt ist die EULA für den Kunden jedoch noch nicht einsehbar. Gesetzliche Regelungen, wie z.B. das Urheberrecht gelten auch ohne Erwähnung in einer EULA, darüber hinausgehende Klauseln sind ungültig.


Though these contracts (the EULA) seem to be very "official", they have in Europe mostly no validation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> The agreement to use this software is already done via buying - and at this stage, the consumer can't look into it (EULA). Law regulations, such as the COPYRIGHT are valid EVEN if not mentioned in the EULA - paragraphs extending this are not valid.


Hmmmmmmmm, so copyright is more important - meaning this => the EUCD copyright laws... Right? Or... to be exact => the copyright laws of the country one lives in.
don't know about the US though - I clicked in Wikipedia to have this article in English and the last paragraph (the one I translated) was gone and this came:
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Assuming that publishers follow the correct procedures (such as giving the user the right to return the software for a refund), EULA licenses are generally enforceable in the United States.


Last edited by kiya; 13/07/04 09:39 PM.