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I think it's good that you have so much focus in God. My beliefs are different, but they still have that focus.
Some questions: Does God care for you? Does God care about you? Does God guide you? Does God teach you?
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Fair enough...seem to have some contradictions in there...no religion?? But believe in Jesus...and whether you pray or not, that's deemed a religion (i.e. a belief system based on certain ideals - a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny) That's the dictionary definition of religion. Byblos calls it truth, because that's how he understands it to be. It might seem absurd to others, but other's opinions of one's faith don't matter.
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this is getting more & more hairy by every post. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
dudes (plowking & womble),
no need to attack byblos's beliefs. fair enough u mentioned that u don't buy it but let's not put him down further below than where he is now.
byblos, so u're a bit angry at some of our comments but hey, we're trying to give u our opinions, share a bit of experience & lessons learnt, so please don't bite us. calm down a bit, ok?
so a priest is not someone u trust. at all. i got the message. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
byblos, u're not thinking straight. not enough. so yes, that girl is important to u as life itself, & so is God. u have three things that need to be top priority;
- the girl - God - life (ok, so maybe not)
what does God tell u about the girl? let's say He told u to just let her go & go on, would u? let's say later on, that girl will put u on a spot & ask u to choose; her or God, which one?
& as for your silence, what do u mean by that? that u don't know how to express your emotions? u don't know how to say it out? is it very hard for u to tell people or her how u feel?
is there anyone u can talk to? it's obvious we cannot help u other than giving u advises, which most of the time can be very harmful since we don't know u or how to help u in your situation.
at the very least, u have taken the first step in getting better; admitting that u have a problem. the next one will be to determine what it is. it may be your behaviour or your mindset. it may be the situation that makes a small matter worse. since none of us are there with u to know the situation better, we can't tell.
& talk of friendship with God, i don't gloat about it but it doesn't mean that i deny it. so no point bringing up God issues here. it only brings out the ugly in us whenever we try to engage in that topic.
& again, byblos, u can always PM me.
HEF, thanks for respecting differences in beliefs. u're the dude. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
![[Linked Image from i3.photobucket.com]](https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/tingtongtiaw/jang_sig.png) ......a gift from LaFille......
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Jag..
I would choose her company over heaven. I would give my eyes to feel her presense.
As for my silence, I have thoughts and thingds to say but my mouth will not let me say them.
I cannot talk to anyone, the onyl family I have is my Dad and this is largely his doing!
She s gone, she called me last night to make it final! My problem is I have never had anything or anyone before her and now shes gone and the promise of eternal life doesnt make up for that... ID rather not exist then be without her.
And its not like I didn something wrong, I didnt do anything wrong to her, I havnt done anything to make God angry. I just feel like another jobe. Is he allowing all of this suffering just to prove a point!? Well whatever his popint is proven, You can take away my heart and ill still say God is good. But then here I am miserable.
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self-confidence comes from within .... ... .. . writing skills come from practice of those skills....just never give up and keep writing away <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
This is SpArTa!! oh im sorry, I must have took a wrong turn..somewhere...(runs away)
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After Alex and I broke up, I ended up with an ex-girlfriend, Nat. I ended up with her because she was there for me when things between me and Alex were falling apart. I was there because I wanted what I had with Alex. That was the biggest mistake. It was a long distance relationsihp. She was at Uni, just over the border. It was torturous after having broken up with Alex and then being in a difficult (and false) relationship.
Like I do with everything i can in life, I made the best of it. It hurt my heart. It hurt my wallet. But it fixed my self and my soul in a way that couldn't have happend if I stayed with Alex.
I visited Nat a few times. She was living in a rural town, Wagga Wagga. Just before I went up for the last time, we broke up because it was just too difficult. I went up anyway. I'd already spent a lot on the train tickets and Alex was moving her stuff out of the house that weekend. I just needed to be away. That weekend, I took the advice of another forum member here. I went for a walk and sat down for a while. I didn't look at what made my unhappy, that was obvious. I looked at what used to make me happy, completely excluding any other people. What did I do alone that made me happy? I started running. I ended up running right out of town. Then it started raining. So I took my shirt off and danced around. I felt great! Despite visiting a recent (again) ex, it was the holiday I needed.
I'd found parts of my self that were long lost, parts I hadn't even realised I'd lost. Since then i've recovered so much more and built on top of it. Sometimes you don't know what you've got until it's gone. Other times you don't know what's gone until you get it back.
It sucks she's gone. I feel for you there. Be angry. Be sad. Just don't live in the past.
Take a holiday, even if it's just going to the middle of nowhere for a day. Just think about yourself; not MT, not friends, not past loves, just yourself. Think what parts of you matter to you. You won't find your answers with anyone else. Others can guide or suggest, but you will have to find them alone.
Also, please feel free to PM me if you want to. Strangers are sometimes the best people to talk to. You can trust them to not judge you or to not tell your friends. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Your stopry sounds sad, but so many poeple have girlfriends and I see this, but I have never met someone who had a relationship like MT and I shared. It was very unique and so much deeper then any ive ever seen..
Me? Im an emty sheel without a female companion, I have always been in hibernation before her.. Nothing makes me happy but a female partner (NO not sex partner!), and sometimes games... Games take my mind away from it all. But I dont have any good games, and I have to find a job now... For the past three days Ive had no choice but to sit here and cry for her to come back.. Its not going to happen, but I have nothing else to do, nothing else makes me happy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />
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HEF, u hit the nail right on the head. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> glad to know u're better now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
byblos, i've PMed u. short note: hold on. hold on to yourself.
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you guys are both puting so much effort into me, I really appreciate it! And Jag i Responded.
I wish poepel like you were around me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
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we ARE with u, at least in the forum, though not physically. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
![[Linked Image from i3.photobucket.com]](https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/tingtongtiaw/jang_sig.png) ......a gift from LaFille......
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Your stopry sounds sad, but so many poeple have girlfriends and I see this, but I have never met someone who had a relationship like MT and I shared. It was very unique and so much deeper then any ive ever seen.. Of course it is. You don't see people's private lives. Otherwise they wouldn't be "private"! Many, many people have relationships that deep. And many of them have to get over breaking up with them. It is sad that I lost Alex, but I am a better person know because I learned from my experiences with her, both good and bad. It's sad that you lost MT. Don't let it be in vain. Me? Im an emty sheel without a female companion, I have always been in hibernation before her.. Nothing makes me happy but a female partner (NO not sex partner!)... Bull-[nocando]. I know that's all you can see, but it is bull-[nocando]. I didn't know what to do without Alex, and I continued to [nocando] up my life. Why? Because I sought a female partner, same as you. The only thing you neglected to mention is that you want MT. Another female won't be right. and you want it because that's what you're used to. You've forgotten how to live single. How did you live before MT? , and sometimes games... Games take my mind away from it all. But I dont have any good games, and I have to find a job now... For the past three days Ive had no choice but to sit here and cry for her to come back.. Its not going to happen, but I have nothing else to do, nothing else makes me happy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> Games are an escape, especially at a time like this. Don't rely on them to get you through. Though you don't want to, kick yourself in the bum and get out. Get the job. I forced myself to go out and have fun on the weekends. I went to the only night-club I enjoyed, by myself, and just let loose. I knew no one there and didn't care how I looked dancing. I didn't bother drinking. I certainly didn't need any drugs. It just felt good to let the music wash over me. And I ended up meeting someone who took me to other clubs, one of which is now my second favourite. janggut and I care because we've been there too. It seems so unique to you, but it isn't. Sure we never had it exactly quite like you did, but the premise is the same. Also, have another look at the start of this thread. Though it looks different to you, it isn't by much.
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we ARE with u, at least in the forum, though not physically. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I know you are with me! ARG! But I wish you were AROUND me!! ARG ARG
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WHat? NO Isee their whole thing. THey screw go out and drink, screw themn swap partners and screw. THere is no depth and I would rather burn in hell then do that!
Before MT I just sat in my room by myself and did nothing! I was never happy before her, now ive lost her and have to get a job!
Clubs?! YOu are outnof your mind if you excpect me to go to a sick night club, Id rather be alone then surround myself with all of them whores.
I think you guys are comparing your stories with something that happened to me in the past, I had a girl before MT but it was so wrong, we called it love but it was lust and Im afraid I turned her into a slut. She wasnt before me, but.. thats all We did together, and I treated her bad as well.. then she left me and her next boyfriend screwed her and cheated on her and shen she found out said "I dont care, screwing you was all I wanted" Now shbe just goes along with it! A guy comes up to her she says OK, now shes screwed more people then I can copunt on my fingers, and it all started with me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> . Now Imageine if that happens to MT, Imagine someone sweet atlking her into bed with them, Not only will it defile her body and break my love for her, but she will be used, and broken in the end, yeah brokeness can lead to salvation but I dont want her to suffer, she hasnt done anything wrong! She hasnt had much experience with guys and easily falls for the hes sweat trick, she thinks every guy is sweet because she is so easily fooled... and soon shes gonna fall for it and its gonna hurt us both BAD. You may think im underestimating every guy in my area but I knw them, I used to be one of them..
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Before MT I just sat in my room by myself and did nothing! I was never happy before her, now ive lost her and have to get a job! Maybe the people at your job can help you? It can be a good place to meet people. Clubs?! YOu are outnof your mind if you excpect me to go to a sick night club, Id rather be alone then surround myself with all of them whores. It's each to their own. I like clubs for the music and the energy, not the people. If you like other places, go there instead. I think you guys are comparing your stories with something that happened to me in the past, I had a girl before MT but it was so wrong, we called it love but it was lust and Im afraid I turned her into a slut. So you stuffed up. Get over it. Learn from it (which it sounds like you have). You didn't make her do what she does. She did. If she didn't sleep with you, someone else would have been the first of the long line. I know what I had with Alex was love, not lust. If it was just lust, I'd have left her a lot earlier. Now Imageine if that happens to MT, ... she hasnt done anything wrong! No, but she's not yours to protect any more. She is her own person and will make her own decissions. You can't look after other people who don't want to be looked after. You'll only hurt yourself trying. If she comes to you, by all means do what you can, but if you chase her and try to protect her, she'll push you away more and you'll hurt both of you. Also, the longer you try to keep her close in your life, the longer and more it will hurt. She hasnt had much experience with guys and easily falls for the hes sweat trick, she thinks every guy is sweet because she is so easily fooled... and soon shes gonna fall for it and its gonna hurt us both BAD. I'm sorry, but this is life. You just have to learn when people are trying to [nocando] you over. No one can teach you, you can only learn from failure. She will find someone else because she's going through the same thing as you, and she has less experience behind her so there's a good chance she'll stuff up. All you can do is let her and be there for her if she comes back for comfort. It's not what you want to hear, but the best thing is to look away and put some space between the two of you.
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I dont have a job yet, and wont be able to meet anybody <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
I dont like any places but home <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
She didnt do it, Us stupid guys did. I feel sorry for hot girls sometimes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
But, I am everyone's for protection. I live to serve.
There already was space and thats the problem, our stupid ignorant parents and her idiotic beliefs, Which she knows nothing About I might add except they teach her to do whatever she wants... If we didnt have this space this wouldnt have happened, Im starting to feel better in a way, but more dead, like i was before I left her. EVery once in a while I break down crying but besides that I have no emotion. What i fear the most is ill go on living and get a job, get a place and be alone... and I hate beoing alone so much and thats all ive been without her. I dont want to be alone!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
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Byblos, I am alone for my life - so far. I guess you know how difficulty it is (or might be.
But yet somehow I survive.
More than 10 years ago I wrote lyrics adapted to the "Glitter Years" by the Bangles, and I wrote in it : "I don't really know how I survived these darkened years ..."
Something s stronger in me. In anyone.
And sometimes, I just "watch" the Jester in me breaking out; then everything is okay. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I love making jokes, being funny, even if there's no-one who hears it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Or sometimes I'm alone; just be; just am; in Nature, for example. Then everything is okay. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
If you walk through a wood, you can be sure that you are never alone ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it. --Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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WEll I hate being alone! And Ive been alone for as long as I can remember. And now im going to seperate myself from you all as well. Ive decided screw it all. THanks for those of you who have tried but you havnt made me feel better at all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I dont plan to come back to these forums, unless I get MT back and if that happens you will be the first to know.... until then, or never. Bye
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