well i guess 'off topic' would be a bit simplistic at this point...and there is no point in furthering this discussion (other than to respond to zebulahn - your point is valid, but not at all what's being refered to in the posts. i believe most everyone knows how to 'guide' the party - leader, follower - this is instead concerning other aspects involved with 'leader', etc. but thanks for posting and trying to assist, it's appreciated)