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#256814 27/07/04 12:15 AM
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I am in level 17 (Divine Divinity). When I load saved game firs everything simms o.k. (I can steal save current activity), but when I teleportet my character out from council of seven, I cannot save the game anymore. After a vile if I play further, I get a note:

’’Divine divinity has detested a potential problem with the story content of your game. A scene which started at least ten minutes ago did not end which might indicate some data got corrupted. For this reason, the game data cannot be saved. If you are in the middle of a scene this is no problem. If you are not aware of a scene being active, then you should exit and reload from your last save game.’’

I try to reloaded my game, but the problem is steel here.

And one more problem. I was already in the Dark forest before, but now, when the game ask me if I would like to go to the forest and when I say yes, nothing happens.

I am not an expert in computer so I don’t know how to save these. Maybe is good to tell, that one day before, when I was playing the game, the electricity went out(hole apartment). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> But when we fixed it, I continue playing.

Please help me fixed the problem so I could continue playing the best game ever.

Please forgive me if my grammar is incorrect, I use English only for hobby's. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />


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Unable to enter Dark Forest, click here

If this link doesn't help (emptying the dynamics folder content) - maybe this will help?

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Maybe a clean re-install would help? Zip or otherwise backup your saved games folder to another location first, just in case. Then un-install, re-boot, shut down all non essential programs (especially anti-virus), re-install the game. Maybe start the game and see if you can quick save(games saved under the 1.34 patch will not work in game version 1.29, but you can try in a new game). After this, re-boot, shut down all non essential programs, install the patch, re-boot, shut down all non essential programs, start the game. This procedure is a bit over-cautious, but the best way to avoid install problems.


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Check the number of files in the saved game folder (in '..\Divine Divinity\Run\savegames'). Missing files might cause the game to crash when trying to load. A new game should have 22 files, after going to either Verdistis or the Dark Forest it should have 27, after going to both it should have 32, after getting to the wastelands it should have 37, and after getting to the Black Ring dungeon it should have 42.


Very, very sorry, I forgot to welcome you => [Linked Image] Sisaya.

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Kiya thank you for you help, but I steel have a problem. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I re-installed the game, scanned the computer for potential virus, have deleted all files in the Divine Divinity/Run/Dynamic folder and then copy from my save game folder beck to Dynamic folder...nothing happened.

When I start to play my saved game, I can steel do everything, even saving the game. But when I teleported my character out from the Council of Seven, the problems appear.
What does the computer mean by "a scene which started at least ten minutes ago did not end" - what scene? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />



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I forgot to inform you that my saved game (my folder) has 32 files.

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Sisaya, if you have time => could you pack your save with Winzip or Winrar and send it to
kiya1@t-online.de please?

I want to compare your 32 files to mine. I have patch version 1.0034A
Kiya

Forgot: you do have the CD in your drive and no CD-Crack?

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What does the computer mean by "a scene which started at least ten minutes ago did not end"

The game thinks a cut scene should come, but as I don't know where you teleported yourself to, I have no clue which cut scene is missing.

Is this the 1st time, you teleported yourself out of the Council and have this problem? Have you never been able to save after you were in the Council Hall and left it?

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#256819 27/07/04 10:43 PM
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I am no expert in computers so could you pleas write down step by step how to save with Win-zip or Winrar - please.

- I have game CD in drive (original)
- yes, it was the 1st time, I teleported myself out of the Council
- I have never been able to save after I was in the Council Hall and then left
- when there should be dialog between characters the picture froze (because I can continue playing when teleport from Council but cant saving, cant get new task, cant get to the Dark Forest...)


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1. you need one of these programs, either Winzip or Winrar.
2. then go into programs/divine divinity/run/savegames/
3. search for the save you want to send and then right click if you have Windows XP. A pop-up menu will come and you have several options:
For Winrar => add to.... (name of your save comes and has the end ...rar)
4. left click then. The program Winrar will pack this save.

When it's done, you will have 5-6 MB. Then you can send me a mail. do you know how to send attachments?

3a. For Winzip => right click on the save you wish to send, and look at the pop up menu saying "Winzip". there is an arrow, if you follow this with your mouse, you see more more options. Choose "Add to ...zip" (... is the name of your save and has the ending zip).
4a. Left click then

Example: your save has the name "council", ok? So, it will "council.rar" or "council.zip" then after packing.

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My internet connection is very slow (41,2 KB/s) so I will send you my save game tomorrow from another computer.

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Ok, I plan to exchange the world files in your save with mine and check if this works. If it does => maybe we'll get your save working.
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Sisaya, I exchanged my story.000 file with yours =>
I can save your game in Aleroth
the teleporter pyramids work
I can enter the Dark Forest.

Please, do me a favour now => send me a story.000 file in zipped form from a save, where you had no problems in saving/loading. If possible, one where you didn't enter the Council Hall, but not a very early one.

1. I can zip and put your working save on my server to download, but I have forgotten which impact story.000 has - so, I might change the parts in your story as you had it.

2. Your save is now version 1.0034 - and the save you sent me has 1.0029, so you would have to patch your game. If my theory with your story.000 works, you can proceed with your old version, see?
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I will post and send you a mail as well, as I don't know, what will reach you earlier, ok?

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The story files contain the details of where you are in all quests. If you keep a set from a different game (where things were not done in the exact same order) you will break quests, possibly ones required to complete the game


Well, as Raze states the importance of keeping the story files as they are - PLEASE, send me a story.000 file of one of your last saves. One, where you could save and load, ok? Very near to the Council save you sent me.

Do you remember how to zip? It's the same procedure. But instead of zipping a whole save, you merely go into the save you choose to send
1. look for the file story.000
2. right click on it and then go to "Winzip"
3. there is an arrow - go right and you see "add to...zip"
4. left click and winzip will pack the story.000 to story.000.zip.
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#256824 28/07/04 07:46 PM
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The saved story I have send you is the only one saved game I have. Every time I stop playing I erase all Quick-save story and store just one - the lest one.
What now?
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Ouch... double ouch.
Can you tell me, how far you were in the Dark Forest? The map was black and a bug came at once. Did you already do a lot there?

I can upload the save I made => BUT! You have to update to version 1.0034, otherwise the game won't run, you see? If I put my story.000 from my 1.0034 version into your 1.0029 version => great mess.

I'll try and see if it works - but I am very sceptical. Wait about 15 minutes, ok?

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I can save in Aleroth
I can go to the Dark Forest
I can use a pyramid in Aleroth and return from the Dark Forest.

So, I could send you my story.000 file to replace yours, but I'm still sceptical. I don't know the impact it has on the story you made so far. what if quests are unsolvable?

Your decision, Sisaya.

You didn't restore Mardaneus's sanity, is this correct? As long as you don't do this, you can't get Goemoe to join the council

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In Dark Forest I have completed only one task - I pick a brooch for Randell, Sir Dante's servant in Dwarven Halls.

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http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/fixsaves/story.zip

Ok, then download this file. It is story.000.
1. download it
2. unpack it
3. go into your save BARBARA and open it
4. replace your story.000 with my story.000.
5. close save and exit
6. Clear the content of your dynamics file - to make sure.
7. Start game and pray.

How to extract:
Right click on the downloaded story.zip.
Go to Winzip - arrow -
pop up menu comes . Chose "extract here" if you have downloaded the zip into the savegame folder.
Program will ask, if you wish to replace story.000.
Click yes.
Check if your new story.000 has 4.107 bytes (4,00 MB) - your old one only had 3.92 MB.

And don't worry, I still have your old, untouched save (you, too. As a zip).


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#256828 28/07/04 09:55 PM
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
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The game is working!!!!!

I can go to the Dark Forest, I can save a game, the characters speak with eatchother...
For now everything seams to be beck to normal.

I am really thankful for your help and for your time. I couldn't do this without you. I hope that your kindness will bring you many good times in life . Thank you again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Just one more question:

Shouldn't the dragons status turn around and open the big statue to enter the catacombs beneath Aleroth?
They are turning round and round, but nothing happens.

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The small statues should turn until they face north, IIRC, then click into place and stop turning. Try turning them all to the north.

I believe if you scry for the human council member it should reset Mardaneus' position and status, so you wouldn't need to enter the catacombs. However, you can bypass the statue;

FIX for the Missing Catacombs Portal

Teleporting Anywhere, via hex editor

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No, the statues don't open the catacombs now (tried it in your save). As you have started the council quests, the village is now prepared for part 2: a lot of giant orcs and a council member will be in Lanilor's house.

You will have to use Raze's hex editor, sorry. But try his suggestion:
Kill the orcs
defeat the council member in Lanilor's house
get the key from the shelf there and free Mardaneus in his house.

If you encounter problems => I can try and replay the whole part on your save tonight to check if Goemoe will then wander off to the Blue Boar Inn. Before he does => speak to him after you have freed M. so you get the Lizard Teleporter scroll (not vital, as it is only for one teleporter).

It would have been better to solve all quests in Aleroth first (specially healing M.) - we'll see, if you can proceed. This is a new situation for me - I can only hope, it works. Never tried the variation: council first, Aleroth later...
Kiya

Thought a bit: As I'M at work, you have been in the catacombs, otherwise you wouldn't have the Slasher quest. Please, look, if the grave in the NE sector is open, this was another way to enter the catacombs. It will only be open, if you had opened it from underneath. I forgot to check this possibility this morning.

Another thing: If you plan to recruit the Imp Council member and are playing 1.029: DON'T refuse his offer to touch his magic crystal ball. You have only one chance. In later patch versions (1.0034) you could refuse. As the gathering of all members is crucial (main plot) you can't be able to fulfill this if you refuse under 1.029. So, save before you enter the Ducal Inn in Verdistis. Otherwise you will need a technical workaround <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

BTW, it's nice to play your mage - she looks like my char <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Hy

- After I kill all the Giant orcs I went to the Mardaneus house - the door was unlock. When I spoke with him my character didn't spoke anything about council.
- I got the Slasher quest form being in orcs cave. When now I try to return in the cave I cant go further because I don't have a key.
- The grave is not open.

What is Razes hex editor?

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Hex link, click here

you will need the this coordinates:
X 40 18
Y 90 99

Map 00

have you got a hex program? Raze explained it very well. With his method, you can "teleport" yourself anywhere in the game, by changing the coordinates of your save. Take your time to read it, Sisaya. I know myself, I thought I would never understand it => but it's really easy. Even I learned it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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Try getting the key from Lanilor's house anyway, after defeating the black ring member. If that doesn't trigger the proper speech options, try standing inside Mardaneous' house and closing the door, to trigger his 'help, I'm locked in' expression he would have said clicking on the locked door from outside.

There is no key to get further in the catacombs. You need to collect 3 orbs from around the first level (map) and drop them on the pentagrams beside the locked door to the stairs down. A nearby book should describe this. The grave will be opened after you get past the locked door and take the stairs up. In the graphics options change the darkness setting to 50 and increase the gamma to help see better at night or underground.

A hex editor is a program for editing binary files, similar to a text editor for text files.

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Raze, when Sisaya entered via orc camp => she can't get all 3 orbs => remember the lever behind the door in the west/east corridor? How to reach it? IMO it is too far for telekinesis.

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Oops, I forgot about the orc camp entrance, and assumed she managed to get past the statue.

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Nope, the statues don't work, Raze - I tried it with her save this morning myself: it's true, the statues turn and turn endlessly. Therefore I hoped the grave was open - but as Sisaya says, she got the Slasher quest via orc cave...
No, I fear she needs hex.

It's not my story.000 file though => it's triggering the council quest before finishing Aleroth.

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Hallo again.

I took my time to study the Hex editor. I downloaded it and what did I find - that my saves don't have string 41 67 65 6E 74 73 56 (AgentsV) not even string 6e 65 77 20 6E 70 63 (new npc)!

What can I do now? (I was looking the strings with - Find (Ctrl + F)

Just to inform you - there is no key in Lenoir's house, when I close the door from Mardeniuss house he ask me to save him, but when I open the door, he is stupid again.

If you are steel interesting in finding the way, please help me.

Sisaya

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Did you download Hackman? The latest freeware version introduces a file size limit, so it will only open the very beginning of the data.000 file. Check further down the topic for a link to version 7, or try a different hex editor.

The key in Lanilor's house should be straight in, sitting on top the shelf with a plant and banner. Was the black ring member there, at least?

Are the other council member quests being triggered properly? Either a dialog or story file swap with a working save should get Mardaneus to the council, but I would need your save to check that.

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Sisaya, I will play your save now and see what I can do, ok?

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@Raze, big problems:
with Sisays's old save => M. door is locked, key is on shelf. Demona can't be attacked (neutral) - M. joins the council. BUT now no saving possible in the Council Hall now. I can use the teleporter pad to get to Hall.
Gee, did you know about this speech option? Lanilor was killed by the orcs in Aleroth? M. is sane.

with the new story.000 file =>
saving is possible - BUT: M. door is unlocked, no key on shelf. Demona is passive. No speech options to join council. NO access back to Council Hall (teleporter is not active)

I don't think, there is much use to continue your game, Sisaya. I can give you back your old file, but how will you survive, if you can't save anywhere? Or enter the Dark Forest? I fear that short circuit messed up - and my story file causes other problems I saw: strange cut scenes with the quarreling dwarf/human => I saw a place in the No-Between-World, where all quest items are stored, including keys. This might be though, because I forced the game to use a story file from another version (higher than your save)

I will upload your old save (the corrupt one) and maybe Raze will find another method.

I can only tell you this: please, patch your game if you wish to start again and never keep only one save. If you don't want to start all over => I can start for you, play the Aleroth dungeon - take the solution, leading you to Stormfist and leave you at the Council. But you need to update to 1.34 for this to venture with my save then.

As you play a mage => I can give you my mage where I started the council quest (but I am much higher in lvl, as I leave this one until I have solved all subquests, am in my 30es then) I can modify this save, so you will see your char's name <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - you will be able to do all council quests as you wish. Only no sub quests then, as I did them already. She looks the same as your char.

And... I think, I can give you your inventory back, so you have your nice weapon.

BUT! You need to patch to 1.34. What do you think, hm?

2nd offer: I will give you save, where my mage is lvl 17, but you will have to redo the castle and the Hall - as I normally enter this in my 30es (lvl 33)

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My boyfriend sad to me that I am a cheater <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />, because we are making changes in my play all the time. So I decided to start a new game (I have plenty of time).

I will save one copy of ¨old¨ game just in case if you find out the solution.

Kiya and Raze, I am very thankful for all your help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I am going to continue visiting the forum because man can find a lot of interesting tips. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

See you; <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Sisaya <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />

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Please, patch your game, Sisaya - and keep more than one save, ok?
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