thanks kiya,^_^

i have level 5 hammer but i am only lvl 29 or 30 so that would prob be the big difference, have int on the mage of 100 though so thats okay i guess.

I should probably go do some more time in the bf's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

If that quest isnt essential i will leave that i thk it was really just for the lovely sword i thought it might be worth doing.

K so i do have to kill samuel ulp! hehe k fair enough i have another go but i did forget to use my 3 dolls so they may help;)

Thx lots have a great weekend ^_^

Maddy