Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Help/Tips/Tricks Still in Act 1-Still Confused: Need Help

First,someone posted earlier that to cut down on the Weight of all items
simply find a Chest that says "Opened" and it has Zero weight-put it in Your inventory,and insert all your Heavy items-the Weight will still be Zero as long as you Keep the chest "Open"-----Well,tried that and It Just Does Not work!

Now, I'm Confused on a couple things:
1.Got the Second BF Key which says "BF 2 is now open for you" yet when I got the Key in the Barracks area it COMBINED with My FIRST key I got at the Beginning--?? anyway,I go back to the BF and I still cannot enter ANY New Area--there is still one "Fountain?" that still says "Locked" I don't understand!

2. None of the 5 NPC traders in the BF Will train in the Warrior Skill "Identify" I Have yet to find an NPC that does Teach that Skill--where is One?

3. none of the BF Traders Ever have More than 254 gold. Trading with them is Impossible. Most of them have somewhere in neighborhood of 40-75 Gold only!
Very Strange!

4. I have Yet to complete a Quest from any of the BF NPC's. Gone down as far As I can see possible in every Area and yet when I get to what appears to be the very Last area there is Nothing but a Small Rock-Walled type Room and there is Nothing there.

5. I'm Level 9 and have a total of 8 Skill points.Figure I should Have 9 but I don't. Only ONE Skill point per Level? Umm, I have several Items that need Level 6 to "Identify" so that means I Could Spend 6 Points just to Identify an Item. From what I can tell of Skill Tree You Just NEVER will have enough Skill Points to do much of Anything?

6. "Permanent Survival potion" I Used it and it Upped My Survival Skill by One which was Nice--then I Used another one that was "Medium Survival Potion" and it Knocked My Survival back Down ONE--WTH???
Are there "Other" types Of "Permanent" Skill Potions in the Game or just that ONE??

7.The Big Map: Supposedly this Map shows Everywhere You have Already been with the areas You have Yet to go being Dark "fogged out?" Yet I have traversed the SAME areas Dozens of times because the Map will show Darkened areas and then when I get there its Just to Discover that I've Already been there.Very Frustrating--Is there some KNOWN Problem with this that I can Correct? How??

Soooo Confused. Maybe thats Why I'm so addicted-gives me a Reason to Scratch My Bald Head!
Any help is appreciated. TIA.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFAct1.jpg

which dungeon is still closed? BF 2 should open 1+2

about your game => which version, please? 1.045? The money your traders have is very low <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

BF => if you're unlucky, all BF quests are solved in the 3rd lvl of dungeon 3.

your skill lvl is strange - if you didn't use one. You should have 10 IMO at lvl 9. As every 5th lvl gives 2.

There is another survival potion in Act 3 - but with a holy water bowl+ alchemy skill extract at lvl 4 + plants you can create perm. potions yourself (one for each bowl). Please, take OFF all your stuff and look if survival goes up again - maybe you have a restricted item equipped? I recall, I once had this: drank the perm survival and nothing went up - but I forgot to check in that save, if my items were the cause or if it's a bug. I know from others, they had probs in that also.

The big map => ingame? should remain uncovered - big map in BF? They reveal as you walk. Some have probs with this covering up each time they re-enter the BF.

About identify skill. I can't open Desdemona's site at the office, could you look? She gave BF skill descriptions. http://studwww.ugent.be/~kvloeber/BD/Main.html#

here is the link. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

*** Many thanks for your help.***

In Samuel's lair.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act1screens/Act1BF3.jpg

see?


what does this screen say?
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/actgeneral/mainscreen0.jpg
please look


It uncovers in blocks - right? Sorry, can't help there.

Taking screenshots in-game => I do it like this: I have Paintshop Pro and activate Snapshot, defined an F key for this and shot. Minimized the game with my Windows key (Win XP) and then saved this into a folder. Converted the psp image to png/jpg and uploaded it. The shot of the BF map is Barnie's secret. I have permission to use it, sorry, no clue. But I guess, he made several shots and stuck them together.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend10.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend20.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend30.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend40.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend50.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/BF1-4/BFend60.jpg

Please, look, as dungeons are created randomly, I don't know how your third level looks. BUT, you find quest items/boss monsters with or without quest item ALWAYS in one of these 6 end dungeons, ok?

And if my suspicion is correct about your game version, you might be very unlucky in solving the BF quests of Act 1. The patch will help in-game, but only in the BF of the next act, Why? Because the BF are generated the first time you enter, see?

Ok -says Version 1.1000 on that Screen. Perhaps I Need to Patch?
Yes,Uncovers in "Blocks" Tedious to go over the same areas time and time again because of this.

I don't have any Programs like Paintshop. Looks Like there is No "Capture" Key provided by the Developers. At Least I cannot find one in the Manual.

Strange-I got the Sapphire Key and it Opened the Chest Near there. Also,My BF Key says -"Access to BF 2"

Thanks for all your help kiya.

sig

i am in no way telling you how to run your character(s), but here are a couple ideas.
remember i posted about the ability to 'sell back' your skills. keep this in mind.
at the end of the game i had 44 and 45 skillpoints for my characters. i finished at level 35+ (which i believe is quite high) in hardcore mode.
use (maybe) 38-40 skillpoints as a 'design' total for your character.
there are certain skills that are fun and/or useful to play around with such as pickpocket, identify, repair and alchemy that at most should be used and then immediately 'sold'. personally, i wouldn't even bother with identify or repair (just pay a merchant), and alchemy only when i have holy water (for making permanent potions).

becuase the skilltree is so large and so diverse, i found it greatly to my advantage to focus on a minimal number of skills - this creates the most powerful (though perhaps less diverse) characters - as long as they compliment each other.
DK (melee) had his 45 skillpoints split into 4 skills, while ZAN (bow) had her 44 in 5.

if your large map 'blackens' upon re-entering the BFs, you need not 'walk' the entire area again to uncover it - just put your cursor all the way to the edge of your screen (that is blackened) and let the game 'scroll' back over the area. this will re-clear it.

Yes, I recommend patching, please. Your BF traders will have a lot more skills to sell, more money, more loot etc.

Your inventory will change though. No, not your content, but you can't see all at once, you need to click yourself through each section.

Did you ever try another snapshot program? Or the print screen key?

Read last post, Raze gave tip links for graphic programs, click here


The sapphire key from Samuel's lair? Where you had to kill Sammy's DK to get 2 rune keys and enter the east and west chamber? I'm really confused now. There is no chest there, really.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act1screens/Act1SammyDK10.jpg

I'm stubborn, are we talking about the same area?

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act1screens/Act1BF2.jpg

This one is BF key number 2. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Kiya

For the screenshots GRABBY is very easy to use.
For the graphics THE GIMP is a good program too.

here's a link to a program raze once recommended for taking screenshots - pngshot
along with some ideas on parameters should you like - details

this program is quite small and runs easily in the background. it wishes to default to a .png picture, so i recommend changing to the much smaller .jpg format.

to use while in-game simply hit the 'print screen' key.
you'll experience a very slight slowdown of the game for about one or two seconds with each taken pic, dependant upon your system specs.

best of all, it's free!

Hehe-Thanks Everybody for making this tired old Septuagenarian Brain work Overtime! But,I think I am Finally getting a Glimmer of Light at the end of a long Dark Tunnel.
I think that I will forego any 3rd Party Screenshot Programs. I don't want to
get started on trying to learn something new to confuse me just when I am
just beginning to see the Fog Clear. Only have used SS's in the past for my own
benefit anyway. Don't want to get started having to learn how to convert png to jpg and then get an FTP proggy and then learn how to upload ,etc,etc. Hope you understand.
I DO believe this is the First Game that I have Seen where the Developer has NOT provided an ingame Key for taking SS's though--and Yes,I DID try the
"PrtScn" Key but it doesn't capture anything.

God,I Love this Friggin Game-its better than the "Smell of napalm in the morning" --Believe me-it truly is!

Now, kiya:
[The sapphire key from Samuel's lair? Where you had to kill Sammy's DK to get 2 rune keys and enter the east and west chamber? I'm really confused now. There is no chest there, really.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act1screens/Act1SammyDK10.jpg

I'm stubborn, are we talking about the same area?

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act1screens/Act1BF2.jpg

This one is BF key number 2.
Kiya]

Apparently we are not talking about the Same Area kiya. The "Sapphire" Key thing is where I got Confused. THe area where you Show getting the BF#2 Key
is Not Where I found mine. It was in that same Area just below the Armory merchant but not in that Location. It was in a Room Below there somewhere (would Need-and Will later-go back to see Exactly which Room) that I found My BF#2 Key and Also the "Sapphire" Key which unlocked the Nearby locked chest with a note on top of it. Thats what confused me--I "assumed" there was only One Sapphire Key and since I Had one that was the Place You talked about --well,obviously there is going to be Another Sapphire Key then because I have not yet been to Sammmuel's Lair.

One last Question--for the moment anyway--From What I had Read about the BF's
You could return there as many times as you wanted to get experience/Trade etc.
To Me this Meant that each time you returned to a BF the MOBS would be Respawned--else Why return for Experience? Well, MOBS do not respawn-at least not in my version. Once an area is cleared you can return a thousand times and it is still cleared. So,I don't get that either.
Am I correct in assuming there are THREE BF's in act 1? If so,does this hold true for Each Act--3 BF's for each Act?

Many thanks to all for your invaluable help. Appreciate it much.

you must have found the BF key 2 on the way to the weaponry.

The sapphire key => yes I know, it's the one where the ghost came out of the chest, right?


Yes, you can return as often as you wish. Monsters do NOT respawn in the current act once you've killed them. You might wish to return to trade/repair/identify and save your skill pts for other skills, see?

Yes, 3 BF in Act 1 - but 6 each in Act 2, 3, 4. And in each new act monsters/quests/items will be generated again, until you leave for the next act. And you have to find the BF keys for each act again. As you have patched now? The BF keys from the previous act will disppear as soon as you enter the next act. This is correct and was thankfully changed in the newer versions. Keeping the old BF keys lead to a jumble. Leaving old BF quests únsolved, quests in the previous act unsolved is ok - your quest log will be clean again for each act.

Sigarr, ask as much as you like, ok? There is no use in scratching a bald head bloody <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - we'll all help you, as this game gives enough headache - Napalm? Hm, if you like bombs, maybe you'd like to build one in-game? Just a tiny hint.
Kiya