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#260625 26/08/04 04:02 AM
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Ok I know I started out with a mage. But I found out that I liked just going in and fighting face to face a little more. The only problem is, I am getting beat up badly lol. I buy every health potion I can find and I still keep running out. I haven't really invested into constitution yet, I am only level 5 or so and I am fighting in the catacombs. I have invested most of my stat points into strength/agility. How far should I raise my constitution?

Also I plan on using swords only, should I go for the sword/shield combo or two handed swords?

Also would just like to say that the game is amazing so far, but I don't think I am very far into the game yet lol. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

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Did you start over with a warrior or convert your mage? If you restarted, the warrior's swirl attack is handy when you get surrounded, and you can hit and run so you are only taking on a few opponents at a time. A bow can be handy for that early in the game, or you can exit the town and level up a bit on the orcs outside (though I would not go very far south, since you will run into a couple much stronger ones there).

differences between classes (minor spoilers)

Early Starter Tips (NON-Spoiler Version) (contains much of the information in the above topic).


Eventually, restoration potions will become more effective that health or mana potions. For now, try leaving one teleporter stone near a bed, and teleport back and forth to sleep/heal.

Did you cure both soldiers in town, and do the other quests? Did you loot (and steal from George) to get some starting equipment? You can kill the rabits and cow for some experience, though at level 5 you may not get much (on level 1 they would give 50 experience points each).


I would raise your constitution a bit at the start of the game, but once you start getting better equipment, you will likely get a good portion of your hit points from equipment bonuses and/or charms.

I started with a sword and shield, then switched to a 2 handed sword for the better damage, and eventually switched back after getting a decent damage one handed sword. This had a little lower damage, but allowed me to equip a shield for the added protection and bonuses.

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The starting stats for constitution really is too low to comfortably move around. Personnally, I would raise it to about 20/25, after which equipment and charms will do.

On the swords, it's really a matter of taste - if you use one-handed sword and shield, then you could invest in the shield skill for some extra damage-points - but either way is absolutely manageable (there is an abundance of swords of all types with magic extras to be found later)


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#260628 27/08/04 05:43 PM
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Thanks a ton for the great info, I have made it out of the catacombs with my trusty bow and just found a dagger with mana drain so I can chain heal myself <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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restoration spell rocks.

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I'm curious about the one-handed swords. I am one member away from completing the council quest, and I have some pretty potent two-handed swords (108-153, 67-113, with good modifiers), but I have some pretty good shields as well, so I'm wondering what type of one-handed swords are considered good? What type of damage is considered high?
While we're at it, I've been playing with the dragon armour for a while, loading, letting him put the gem in it, checking the stats and trying again, you know.
Last night I was bored and tried maybe 20 or thirty reloads, and not once did I get stats that made the dragon breastplate better than the dwarven one I have.
Anybody else?
I thought if we posted our best stuff, where we are and what level, it would be interesting to see who has been the luckiest with the random loot factor.

My Bastord sword (68-113) is great, with 4 charms, 20% protect from fire and poison, +6 Strength and a few others, but it's the mana drain that I find useful since I'm a warrior with mage skills but not many points into intelligence.

Blade Of Chaos is the 108-153, with 2 charms and good mods, but no mana drain.

Besides the dragon shield I have some other shields with 350 armour...is that pretty standard?

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For one handed swords that are always in the game, like the holy sword, the maximum damage is 71-100. It is possible to buy random swords from merchants, or random drops, that go up to around 110 or 120 (IIRC) damage.

I think 350 is a good armour class for a shield (I had 280).
My equipment at the end of the game consisted of the following;


Sword Of The Gods - found in a house in the wastelands. DeathBlow shakes the screen; had this happened more frequently, I would have had to re-load a previous save.

Durability 24
Charm Quality 1
Damage 71-100
4 Strength
6 Agility
6 Intelligence
4 Constitution
4 Offense
100 Vitality
60 Magic
DeathBlow(3)
LifeDrain(5)


Breastplate Of The Dragonheart

Durability 12
Charm Quality 3
Armour 440
2 Defense
100 Vitality
60 Magic
15 Resistance to Fire
40 Resistance to Lightning
15 Resistance to Spirit
4 Hearing
Survivors Instinct +1


Breastplate Of The Dragon - before the upgrade

Durability 30
Charm Quality 1
Armour 390
6 Strength
6 Intelligence
60 Vitality
100 Magic
15 Resistance to Lightning
15 Resistance to Poison
2 Hearing
Heaven's gift +1


Shield Of The Dragon

Durability 45
Charm Quality 2
Armour 280
2 Strength
6 Agility
8 Constitution
80 Vitality
20 Resistance to Fire
10 Resistance to Poison
3 Hearing
Elven Stamina +1
Deadly Gift +1


Helmet Of The Dragon

Durability 26
Charm Quality 2
Armour 450
4 Strength
40 Vitality
100 Magic
40 Resistance to Fire
40 Resistance to Spirit
2 Sight
3 Hearing
Alchemy +1


Gloves Of The Dragon

Durability 28
Charm Quality 1
Armour 220
4 Agility
2 Intelligence
2 Constitution
80 Vitality
60 Magic
20 Resistance to Lightning
4 Sight
4 Hearing
Aura Of Command +1


Belt Of The Dragon

Durability 13
Charm Quality 1
Armour 100
2 Agility
6 Constitution
40 Vitality
40 Magic
15 Resistance to Spirit
2 Sight
3 Hearing
Pickpocket +1
Alchemy +1


Boots Of The Vampire - from the vampire cave

Durability 10
Charm Quality 5
Armour 70
2 Defense
80 Vitality
80 Magic
Identify +1


Imp's plate Leggings - bought from Kroxy in the wastelands

Durability 14
Charm Quality 1
Armour 200
10 Strength
3 Hearing


Amulet Of Glory - found at the bottom of the catacombs, in one of the four rooms under the tiles

Durability 10
Charm Quality 2
10 Strength (gold charm, from first dragon rider)
40 Vitality
40 Magic
10 Resistance to Fire


Sapphire Ring - in Verdistis, from the patient healed at the start of game

Durability 10
Charm Quality 2
6 Constitution
40 Vitality
40 Magic
10 Resistance to Lightning
Alchemy +1


Ruby Ring - from the house north of the cursed Abby

Durability 10
Charm Quality 4
4 Strength
60 Vitality
40 Magic


Some of my previous equipment included;


Nobleman's Sword - holy item quest

Durability 12
Charm Quality 3
Damage 71-100
2 Strength
4 Agility
6 Constitution
60 Magic
Life Drain(4)
Stun(5)
lightning Damage(5)
Spiritual Damage(4)


[nocando] Sword - two handed, from the knight south of Stormfist castle

Durability 22
Charm Quality 4
Damage 68-113
Lightning Damage(2)
Life drain(3)
mana Drain(2)


Polished Chain Leggings - from the imp castle??

Durability 29
Armour 150
2 Intelligence
1 Defense
42 Vitality
8 Resistance to Lightning


Closed Helmet - from the council hall

Durability 14
Charm Quality 2
Armour 200
8 Agility
10 Constitution
100 Vitality
15 Resistance to Lightning
10 Resistance to Poison


Dwarven Plate Armour - from the council hall

Durability 15
Charm Quality 3
Armour 340
2 Intelligence
80 Vitality
80 Magic
5 Resistance to Lightning


I never used the silver armour, but;

Silver Breastplate - before the easter egg upgrade

Durability 23
Charm Quality 2
Armour 410
10 Constitution
15 Resistance to Poison
Polymorph +1
life Leech +1


Armour Of Larian - after the easter egg upgrade

Durability 19
Armour 410
4 Agility
10 Defense
40 Vitality
20 Magic
10 Resistance to Fire
40 Resistance to Lightning
20 Resistance to Poison
3 Hearing
Lightning +1

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With re-loading, I got both the nobleman's sword as well as the swords of the gods with damage range up to 110 - though I generally picked to keep one with lesser damage for the better magic improvements and/or more charm slots.


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Thanks,
knowing what to look for in a one handed sword gives me something to aim for.
My best save with the Breastplate of the Dragonheart is:

Charm 2
Armor 390
Chance to hit 25
+2 Strength
+8 Agility
+5 Defense
+60 Vitality
+20 Magic
+5 Res Poison
+15 Res Spirit
+3 Hearing


I have a Dwarven Breastplate that is better in the places I need, but getting the Dragon Helm is worth it.

I got the Shield with 350 Armor almost at the beginning of the game, and I'm glad I hung on to it.


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