and sorry ubereil... i say it friendly but i don't think it is a very good choice of topic (as you were very critical for some others maybe you could understand that)...
No problem, MG, I understand you (and I'm not taking too much offence either). It wasn't the best topic, and it wasn't the most worked through topic. Maybe we should change. Give me your oppinion on that, and in case not too many speaks heavily against it maybe we COULD change. Argue a little about that, and I think of a better topic during the time.
Übereil (Hmm... Why is Manchester United SO much better than everybody else? No, that's not it...)
