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MasterGuroth:
second: it is entirely false (at least in france) that it is easy to abort... most often many alternative issues are proposed with a certain insistance (insisting?... well substantive for to insist...)



Yes, have to agree - abortion laws in Germany are not that easy either now. Since the Pope intervened a lot of consulting departments lead by the Roman Church were shut down here in Germany. So, religious females, just wanting to be informed about alternatives, are standing in front of closed doors.

Here in Germany you need 3 papers to abort: Your doc - a consultation and ... forgot the third (I think, it was the clinic approving of this, if you didn't want to have it done by the doc himself).

My opinion =>
It's not a matter of wrong/right in general. Sometimes it is necessary IMO - from the females I know of => it had never been an easy decision for them -

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Edit 19th Oct. 2004 Glance:
But, the technological solution being available and the easy (and, sorry, "cheap") way out, the promotion of alternatives is lacking sadly


and Glance, if you think it's a clean way => you have obviously never accompanied a female going this way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> - and if you think RU is "clean" - have you ever sat next to a female having taken that pill? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

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There are SO many reasons why a female aborts and I can't say, they did that easily. What has changed due to improving pre-diagnosis to find out if the baby is genetically damaged or not - has lead to more decision pains for a female.

I think this: females in this situation need understanding, support and encouragement. So they can find out in peace what they want to do, as a lot are in state of shock if their pregnancy state was positive and they were unprepared for this - in a supportive climate - not a stigmatising one. I have viewed too many discussions where men wanted to decide over their fate <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> - and a lot of females are left terribly alone in this situation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

Kiya

[color:"yellow"]Edit, 19th Oct.2004: Although the time's up for this topic, I edited my post, so noone may think, everything was directed at Glance. He chose the factual approach, I the emotional one. Both sides have their equal justification[/color]

Last edited by kiya; 18/10/04 10:58 PM.