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To MysterD:

From what I've read that David at Bioware was telling Adam.
The control will be similar to that of Baldur's Gate, and it's AI will be better than that used in any of the NWN series games.

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There are supposed to be separate multi-player and solo campaigns, so you can play the game according to how you want. The whole thing looks to be about maximising player choice.

This is easily my most anticipated game right now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Dragon Age is a party-based game with a wide variety of interesting NPCs to choose from. Players will be able to interact with their party members as never before, forming friendships, romances and rivalries


You COULD go solo, but wouldn't that be pretty much a whaste? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> And replayability seems kind of nice. If you could replay it in many different whays, it would be nice since it would probably maximize the whole gameing experience.

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Dragon Age is a party-based game with a wide variety of interesting NPCs to choose from. Players will be able to interact with their party members as never before, forming friendships, romances and rivalries


You COULD go solo, but wouldn't that be pretty much a whaste? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> And replayability seems kind of nice. If you could replay it in many different whays, it would be nice since it would probably maximize the whole gameing experience.

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Not for me Ubereil. I love playing solo unless I am playing multi with my friends.

I played NWN, SOU, and HoTU with friends, and then I also played through them
solo with several characters. It is just alot more fun to me. Plus I don't have
to worry about trying to keep henchmen healed all the time. That was more
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There are supposed to be separate multi-player and solo campaigns, so you can play the game according to how you want. The whole thing looks to be about maximising player choice.

This is easily my most anticipated game right now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


That is one thing that would definitely attract me to Dragon Age. To be able to
play it through with my friends and then be able to play it through again SP and
have it be different sounds totally awesome. Plus if different characters get
different choices, that sounds even more appealing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes, Dragon Age will definitely be one to look at when it comes out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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To Shantara:

Are the screen shots cool and unique looking or do they look like more NWN stuff?


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That is tough for me to say Fafnir. One of them definitely reminded me of an
NWN area. Remember the wooden walkways in some of the crypts, this one screenshot
made me think of that immediately. The others not as much.

I think it will have more depth to it than NWN and that you will get more of a
feeling of a real world than what you had with NWN. Maybe I can tell you more
4 1/2 years from now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Would be cool if they added som sub-races though (like Thieflings and Drows).

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Sounds cool to me. I would love to see more races made available. There is one
that I would love to see added, but I can't think of what it is called now.

I think it would be cool to be able to play a Drow, but I would play her as a good Drow, maybe a rebel like Nathyrra was. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I also hope they come up with some really cool portraits that you can use for
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Have you looked at the few screenshots Bioware has posted?

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the drows were a powerful race to play in icewind dale ii. drow paladins had untouchable saving throws, and coupled with the racial bonuses like spell resist and the like, they can withstand a lot of beating, ecl notwithstanding. drows also made good fighters in iwd2.

pity there weren't any playable sub-races in nwn, even with all the expansions it brought forth.

here's hoping dragon age will rectify that, as i'm really looking forward to it, having played the nwn oc all the way through to hotu.


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Drow is so D&D -- that belongs in Obsidian's NWN2, not Dragon Age.

Though, it'd be cool if DA has a similar kind of dark elf like The Drow. Just don't call 'em drow -- drow is so D&D.

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Drow is so D&D -- that belongs in Obsidian's NWN2, not Dragon Age.

Though, it'd be cool if DA has a similar kind of dark elf like The Drow. Just don't call 'em drow -- drow is so D&D.


But aren't alot of other races too? Why cut just the drow out and not the others?

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Drow is so D&D -- that belongs in Obsidian's NWN2, not Dragon Age.

Though, it'd be cool if DA has a similar kind of dark elf like The Drow. Just don't call 'em drow -- drow is so D&D.


But aren't alot of other races too? Why cut just the drow out and not the others?

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Then again, most stuff took form fantasy stories, anyways. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Drow seems so D&D.

Morrowind has dark elves, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Just, they have their own name. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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The whole ruleset is based on D&D! Why leave the drows out? Not talking about the others...

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The dark elf is as much a part of myth & legend as the light elf, but 'Drow' is entirely D&D.

There are plenty of alternatives that amount to the same thing, though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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d&d or not, the drow still enrich a fantasy world's setting.

on another note, there are other sub-races i've seen in iwd2 that might be interesting to play in dragon age or other games: shield dwarf, gold dwarf, duergar, rock gnome, deep gnome (sviferniblin something). they provide a lot of interesting options in character creation given their different racial traits.

i once built a party of characters with ecl races in iwd2. they were a lot of fun and powerful at that. pity i ran out of patience with the game.


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Yeah, it's from ID2 I got all the sub-races from. I allso ran out of patience, after the first town the game turned into an orgy of groupfights (and our opponents ALLWAYS picked on my healers or casters). Liked the sub-races though.

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Ubereil, I think the problem is that Dragon Age is suppose to be built on a
brand new ruleset and not the D&D ruleset. Maybe this is the reason that
people don't feel like the Drow belong in Dragon Age.

Anybody got a comment on this? Am I right or wrong about the ruleset?

I personally would love to still see the Drow included. To me just the word
Drow holds a tremendous amount of meaning to an RPG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Ubereil, I think the problem is that Dragon Age is suppose to be built on a
brand new ruleset and not the D&D ruleset. Maybe this is the reason that
people don't feel like the Drow belong in Dragon Age.

Anybody got a comment on this? Am I right or wrong about the ruleset?

I personally would love to still see the Drow included. To me just the word
Drow holds a tremendous amount of meaning to an RPG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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is that true? if yes, then on what ruleset are they going to base dragon age on? might have to scour the bioware forums on this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

well, there's a dark elf char in sacred. not too sure though if it's similar to the drow since i didn't notice any racial traits on it; just a set of skills.

but yes i agree, drow & other exotic races should be a staple of fantasy rpg's, whether d&d or not.


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This is quoted directly from Bioware's Dragon Age site and is why I assumed that
the D&D ruleset will not be used in Dragon Age.

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1.07: What ruleset will be used in Dragon Age?

Dragon Age will be using a brand new rule system developed specifically for the PC platform by BioWare. It will be a class-based rule system that allows a player to choose from a wide selection of skills, abilities and spells in the tradition of other fantasy roleplaying games.

1.08: What world does Dragon Age take place in?

Dragon Age is set in a new world developed by BioWare. A large team of writers and artists have been busy detailing the societies, religions, history, races, monsters, and economy of the Dragon Age world. Several new languages are also being developed for Dragon Age by a linguistics expert.


Sounds to me like Bioware is trying to break away from D&D and go out on their
own completely.

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This is quoted directly from Bioware's Dragon Age site and is why I assumed that
the D&D ruleset will not be used in Dragon Age.

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1.07: What ruleset will be used in Dragon Age?

Dragon Age will be using a brand new rule system developed specifically for the PC platform by BioWare. It will be a class-based rule system that allows a player to choose from a wide selection of skills, abilities and spells in the tradition of other fantasy roleplaying games.

1.08: What world does Dragon Age take place in?

Dragon Age is set in a new world developed by BioWare. A large team of writers and artists have been busy detailing the societies, religions, history, races, monsters, and economy of the Dragon Age world. Several new languages are also being developed for Dragon Age by a linguistics expert.


Sounds to me like Bioware is trying to break away from D&D and go out on their
own completely.

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hmmm...maybe bioware will adopt the diablo ii-style of combat (shivers). hehe.

anyway, thanks for the info shantara. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />


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hmmm...maybe bioware will adopt the diablo ii-style of combat (shivers). hehe.


Who knows they might. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Reading all of this makes it sound like Bioware is making plans for some big
changes with Dragon Age. It's as if they are going for all new stuff that they
can claim as their own and maybe sell rights to it in the future for other
companies to use.

Wonder how effective all the new will be? Will the gamers go for all new stuff
(ruleset, universe, etc) or will they miss the D&D that has been tied to RPG's
for a long time? It is something to think about. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Who knows?

But to make a COMPLETELY new world, with completely new races, nothing old, nothing you recognize, that will probably not work. There's got to be SOMETHING old, or at least something related to old things (like dwarves, elves, orcs and such). This is probably how it will turn out too.

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