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IIRC, there's no way to get Grace to admit to her feelings until the end of the game, and no snogging either.

Or at least, if there is, I haven't found it yet.

Shame, but there ya go <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Edit: The woman who voices Grace also voices Deionara, IIRC...

You are 100% correct, MysterD. (Man, this guy never misses a thing) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Jennifer Hale was the voice of Bastilla.

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I can't wait to hear her voice in SW:KOTOR. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Jennifer Hale rocked in PS:T.

I did not know that. Shows you how much I paid attention to the sound of their voices.

I loved Deionara's character. I loved her story. The way her love for the Nameless One had led to her death, but yet she still loved him and wanted to help him. The way she showed up just before he went into the Fortress of Regrets to try to warn the Nameless One to not go in and is still willing to help him. It was so great.

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I so loved Deionara's character.

I agree entirely, Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Deionara is probably the single most sympathetic character in the game.

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It seems that Jennifer Hale is a a little busier than we had thought: Gotta love the IMDB <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

A very talented lady indeed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Ubereil, that is really great. You're thinking on 'it's not what's on the outside but what's on the inside that really counts' is absolutely right. The inside of a person is what makes them really beautiful and people others enjoy being around.

I guess in a way I can see that in Annah, how she began to grow and change on the inside after meeting the Nameless One. Before she met him, her life held little meaning, but she learned and she grew from traveling with him and the others. It was good to see her character change and it made you begin to feel for her, to want to pull for her, to want her to overcome her past.



I get your meaning. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes, agreed. Jennifer Hale is very talented.

She did a very good job in KoTOR, but the emotion she put into Grace and
Deionara is what really brought them to life. It was almost like you were
standing there among them, a part of the goup. She was that good.

I liked Grace. Her story and character were done well, but I didn't get
invovled in it as much as I did Deionara's, Annah's, Morte's, or Dak'kon's. Why I
don't really know. She made me laugh a number of times how she would run around
healing everyone during or after a battle.

Over all I think Morte was my favorite character. There was just something about
him that I was drawn to. Maybe it was his loyalty and his sense of humor. I'm
just not sure.

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Elliot, I've never tried to get either Annah or Grace to fall for the Nameless
One. If done right can you actually get Grace or Annah or both to admit they
are in love with the Nameless One?

I know they both seemed to have deep feeling for him at the end when he
ressurected them, but I didn't take that as they were in love with him. Did you
have to create a romance with them during the game?

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Shantara...

At one point you do get the option of talking to Annah about her feelings for you in one of the conversation options. You can get to kiss her, and she's pretty much your girl from that point.

If you are trying to pursue Grace, she says at the end that she will find you wherever you are in the lower planes, and she does something to bind her soul to yours. She says it may seem an eternity and you must never forget. You say given that much time you are not sure - you might forget. She answers with one of my favourite lines in the whole game - "Time is not your enemy! Forever is!"

So it's a case of 'Given enough time, Nameless & Grace will get together' basically <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Grace will always refuse to discuss her feelings for you up to that point, but tell Ravel you think you could love her and she won't exactly be displeased about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

@MysterD: My brother (who is a table role-player. I've never found anybody to play with though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />) explained to me why other's than drowes believd in the drowe god (lunitics not counted).That made me understand just why I shouldn't have made all my drowes caotic good when I played ID2...

And about Deionara: I liked her too. She played a big part of the Nameless Ones past, and was therefor a part of the main story. It was allso kind of interesting how she blinded by love didn't realize that the nameless one was an A-hole. I allways turned out neutrall good btw.

And about kissing a scubbus: maybe we have another reason why I should pick Annah here...

Übereil

I just read a review on the game (because I like to see what other's think of the game...). After the review there was a "rate it yourself" where members of the site could rate it. Everyone (but one) rated it 5 out of 5. That means something...

Übereil

You guys have probably seen this already, but just in case: The original character design for Grace:



Cool, huh?

Yup.

Übereil

Every person I know or know OF who has played Torment praises it to the skies, without exception. Even to the extent that they have prompted others to track it down and play it - who have then in turn also loved it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It's simply one of the best games ever created for PC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

For me it's only 50 % of all I've met (my brother liked it, my best friend (who plays CS) didn't).

Übereil

The reviewers praised it, but it didn't have good sales b/c it came out after BG1 was a major success to revive PC RPG and BG2 was on the verge of release.

The popularity of PS:T pretty much came about through Word Of Mouth, after most players had went through BG1 and 2. PS:T was awesome.

MysterD is right.

I think many people saw it at the time as nothing more than a stopgap measure between BG1 & BG2, so didn't get it as they didn't expect it to be very good.

Heck of a mistake - and one that definitely hurt sales of the game.

I actually played PS:T BEFORE BG1 and 2. I wanted PS:T more than BG1 and 2, at that time -- though, I did want to play them. So for X-Mas, PS:T was mine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

After enjoying that one, I moved onto BG1. Eventually, BG2 was next in line, once it got cheaper.

PS:T was really good -- it rivals BG2 & Morrowind, IMHO, as one of the greatest RPG's ever.