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I'd rather go for "nickname". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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In Sweden, santa use to be a goat. And he wasn't famous for being nice either, even though I think he brought presents. The goat's till there though, and I think Sweden is pretty alone on that point...
And for santa, here we usually put out some rice porridge (porrinde made from rice and milk... It's acually kind of good, eat it with sugar, cinnamon or sirap. And if you change the milk for cream, and add mandarin oranges you'll have another (nicer <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />) X-mass dish, called rice-alla-malta, or something like that...)
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Yea the "nick" was part of the myth i am talking about....
I wonder how something so evil, got turned into a marketing scheme <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
i know money is evil.... but i think in the time of the myth, kids didnt enjoy being killed.... now they enjoy getting presents, and the parents get killed (by the credit card bills)
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I wonder how something so evil, got turned into a marketing scheme If you are thinking along the lines as that urban myth, claiming that Coca Cola is responsible for Santa Claus' red coat, I believe you are mistaken. Saint Nicholas exists for centuries, even before toilet paper and sliced bread. In Sweden, santa use to be a goat. Now that you mention it, Santana does look goat-like...
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And he wasn't famous for being nice either, even though I think he brought presents. Reminds me of the German Knecht Ruprecht, mentioned by Stone somewhere ( was in in the "Advent" - thread or here ? ) .
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I was not aware that there was a myth about coke being responsible for anything other than causing illness in unsuspecting humans.....
the myth i refered to was the one that santa came to kill / kidnap children... mentioned in this thread...
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Do we have time for a rousing letter to Santa from a disgruntled little Timmy..... Muhahahahahahaha! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/xmassmiley.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" /> Letter to Santa......ohhhhh boy! (full of expletives and belly laffs!) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> *glad that's noi MY Timmy....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> this should probably be in the jokes section......but i think it fits better right here! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />
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Ok, to bring some light in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Celebration in Germany, Austria, German Switzerland and the Czech Republic In Germany, Nikolaus is usually celebrated on a small scale. Many children put a boot, called Nikolaus-Stiefel, outside their front doors on the night of December 5 to December 6. St. Nicholas fills the boot with gifts, and at the same time checks up on the children to see if they were good. If they were not, they will have charcoal in their boots instead. Sometimes a disguised Nikolaus also visits the children at school or in their homes and asks them if they "have been good" (sometimes ostensibly checking a book for their record), handing out presents on a per-behavior basis. This has become more lenient in recent decades.
But for many children, Nikolaus also elicited fear, as he was often accompanied by Knecht Ruprecht, who would threaten to beat, or sometimes actually eat the children for misbehavior. In Switzerland, he would threaten to put bad children in a sack and take them back to the Black Forest. In other accounts he would throw the sack into the river, drowning the naughty children within. These traditions were implemented more rigidly in Catholic countries such as Austria. In highly Catholic regions, the local priest was informed by the parents about their children's behavior and would then personally visit the homes in the traditional Christian garment and threaten them with rod-beatings. In parts of Austria, Krampusse, whom local tradition says are Nikolaus's helpers (in reality, typically children of poor families), roamed the streets during the festival. They wore masks and dragged chains behind them, even occasionally hurling them towards children in their way. These Krampusläufe (Krampus runs) still exist, although perhaps less violent than in the past. In Czech Republic, Mikuláš is often also accompanied by an angel who acts as a counterbalance to the ominous Knecht Ruprecht (čert).
In the german part of Wikipedia stand something that Knecht Ruprecht is a kind of Devil. But tame. Wikipedia I love Wikipedia, this link go to many more inof about Santa. Santa Claus Wiki too, all about Santa.
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@ Jurak: Yeah, that's a great letter...
I was thinking of writeing and translateing Karl Bertil Johnssons Christmass, but I don't have the energy...
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In Belgium we originally did not have Santa Claus but St. Nicolas. We celebrate him on the 6th of december and there is also a horrible story linked with it. Once there was this man who kidnapped three little boys and killed them. He sliced them up like meat and put them in a barrel with salt (for keeping the meat fresh). But one day this old man heard the children's cry for help and decides to rescue them. When he came in the cellar of the butcher the children were already dead. But this man, Nicolas was his name, put on some magic, like his collegue Jezus and brought back those children. When this man dead, the church made him a holy man and untill this day we still thank St.Nicolas for his noble deed. So St.Nicolas is not really from Spain, but he lives there because the weather is better for his artitis <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Isn't Santa (the one we celebrate on 25th of december) coming from "Lapland"?
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LOL it's quite different from what they told me in school <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> wich was basicly tich man decides to bring all the kids around the castle cookies.
It's one of these days...
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I think Santa has more myths than the tooth fairy and all her equals combined <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
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1 post from fullmoon.....
Lady_Rain Full Moon? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />
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Sounds like Santa came from a Grimm's Fairy Tale. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" />
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Do we have time for a rousing letter to Santa from a disgruntled little Timmy..... Muhahahahahahaha! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/xmassmiley.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" /> Letter to Santa......ohhhhh boy! (full of expletives and belly laffs!) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> *glad that's noi MY Timmy....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> this should probably be in the jokes section......but i think it fits better right here! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> that was a funny letter jurak i didn't expect the end of the letter to be soo so...different <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> to bad no one told him the secret about santa <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/xmassmiley.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />
This is SpArTa!! oh im sorry, I must have took a wrong turn..somewhere...(runs away)
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I think Santa has more myths than the tooth fairy and all her equals combined <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
1 post from fullmoon..... The Tooth Fairy really does exist .., on the Discworld, though ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
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Yeah, but if the Tooth Fairy is anything like what she was in the movie “Darkness Falls” I don’t want to be visited by the Tooth Fairy at all!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />
what is it with evil myths????
And about that full moon.....
I just turned AwhoooooooOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooOOOOOoooooooOOOOOooooooooooooo
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The Tooth Fairy really does exist .., on the Discworld, though ... Haven't read that book either... I've read Interesting times though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />. Great book... Übereil
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Since we've discussed the evils of Santa and the Tooth Fairy, what about the Easter Bunny? ![[Linked Image]](http://www.geocities.com/kyra_ny/icons/000523.gif) Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" /> ![[Linked Image]](http://www.geocities.com/kyra_ny/icons/000524.gif) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" />
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