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Seth: ... and it's great that you are back! You've been missed. (Btw, don't worry about LadySarah. I'm sure she will settle in just fine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

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If it is illegal, then how can they do it week after week and get away with it?

And about quality. Well, that's what I said, wasn't it?

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Yes, I saw that... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Seth, where do you live? I'd like to know where you're not allowed to think about stepping into a car.

And they should give prison to the board, not get fined. That whay I THINK they would close on sundays...

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And about quality. Well, that's what I said, wasn't it?

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Yep i did not read very well your post.
I was scared to offense you because IKEA is a company from Sweden and you are very proud of your country.

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I think swedish people use very few Ikea...

traditional furnitures are quite common in Sweden...

am I wrong üb?

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Who knows?

We buy quite a lot of furniture at IKEA. Because they're cheap. And we have laws that protect uss customers, so they can't have TOO poor quality.

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I never went to Ikea. We only have two shops in Belgium. And they are both in the same city, Brussels. Too far for me to buy a table or other stuff, but my new couch came from Top Interieur!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> I guess we need other jump smilies!! Maybe easter jumpers?



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Funny that about IKEA, I bought 2 book cases oh about 12 years ago with matching shelf lights and they still all work fine, lights get used everyday and the switch still works ... I.O.W. it cant be all that bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Most of the stuff i bought from ikea, is the type you assemble and leave alone after that.... (paintings, book shelves, wall mounted shelves etc) but none of those has ever broken.... my book shelves are also now 4 years old, and still good and solid.

I suppose it has a lot to do with WHAT you buy....

In South africa, lifts are set on sundays to stop at EVERY floor of a building, since its illegal in some of our cultures to work with anything electric / mechanical on a sunday (even cooking is forbidden on sundays in those cultures). They are allowed to do anything that does not require working with toold, using anything mechanical etc....

Or more clearly stated, on sundays those people are allowed to get into a bus, but not allowed to drive themselves to the shops. They are allowed to buy products, but are not allowed to pay by credit card (it requires them pushing buttons on a machine).



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[color:"orange"]Or more clearly stated, on sundays those people are allowed to get into a bus, but not allowed to drive themselves to the shops. They are allowed to buy products, but are not allowed to pay by credit card (it requires them pushing buttons on a machine). [/color]

Is that then called hypocritical or pragmatic?


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or is it soy sauce, lady rain? japanese soy sauce is fermented to the point of it turning into some kind of liquor. for example that brand called Kikkoman (we should talk with Mea about this) which is actually great with seafood. but i hate wasabe & radish burns the sensitive skin under the nail. bad experience while working in a japanese restaurant.

@ Seth -> thanks for pointing out the nice things about malaysia. have u been there? i wish u could if u haven't & if u already have, i wish u'll come back here again to enjoy the weather & place.

personally, i can't tell what's unique about my country until someone from elsewhere points it out. Seth is a true friend of malaysians. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

edit: Ikea is catching on in malaysia. people think it's the IN thing, buying foreign stuff when local-made can be better (though shops tend to overprice things). i rather have handmade bamboo furniture, thank u. not mass-produced.

@ Barta -> i always think if i want to decorate my home, i'll do it japanese style; with only cushions on the clean floor (of course with bamboo/reed mat). i'm a minimalist.

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It wasnt a soy sauce... that i love (and use it very often), it was some pickle style sauce that they used in absolutely everything.... Other japanese foods i have eaten, we nice... that little town was just a VERY SOUR place...


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Here comes my country - Estonia.

800-1100 A.D. Estonian vikings raiding Baltic Sea.
Estonians kidnap Norwegian Queen Astrid and her son, future King Olaf Trygvesson—sell them into slavery. Estonians destroy Sweden’s main town, Sigtuna.

Estonia is a country that during it's history was under foreign occupation most of the time. Can this be unique thing about country? If yes, then here is short list:
1219 - Danes take north Estonia - first occupation
1227 - German crusaders conquer and Christianize pagan Estonia; the Germans become landed gentry and wield huge influence for 700 years.
1346 - Fed up with constant rebellions by natives, Danes sell northern Estonia to the German Teutonic Order
1561 - Swedes conquer Estonia, repel Russians.
1710 - Russia conquers Estonia, though Germans retain local control. The battle with Sweden causes 80 percent of the 100,000 Tallinn population to die—mainly by starvation and the plague.
1860-1885 - Growing national consciousness—followed by a Czarist backlash.
1870 - Petersburg-Tallinn railway finished; Tallinn becomes a major Russian Empire port.
1905 - Poor peasants vent their anger at Czarist police and Baltic Germans, who own more than half the land in Estonia.
1918 - Estonian forces beat back German and Soviet militaries. They’re aided at critical points by Great Britain.
1920 - Against all odds, Estonia wins independence!
1935 - Estonia becomes increasingly frantic about the threat from Soviet Russia to the east and Nazi Germany to the west. In the meantime, Estonia prospers, with GDP reaching or surpassing Nordic levels.
1939 - Hitler and Stalin carve up Europe, with the Baltics said to be the Soviet sphere. Before, the Baltics were able to play Germany and Russia off each other, but they’re now virtually within the clutches of Russia—with Germany’s acquiescence.
1940 - As Germany invades France, the U.S.S.R. grabs Estonia.
1941 - June 14 First mass deportations by Stalinist forces, targeting the cream of society. Others dragged out of detention cells and shot.
1941 - Germany occupies Estonia. According to German plans, Estonia would be repopulated with Germans and converted into a new Third Reich state stretching as far as Petersburg.
1944 - Soviet occupation again; thousands flee West, others head to the forests to resist. Some anti-Soviet forest partisans engage Soviet troops in battle.
1949 - More mass deportations to Siberia.
1987 - First open protests against Soviet rule.
1991 - In January, Soviets crackdown on Baltics.
August 1991 Moscow’s authority having collapsed, the impossible dream of restoring independence comes true literally overnight.
March 29, 2004 Estonia is accepted into NATO. It's the first time in its history to join a military alliance voluntarily. - funny, if not ironic, isn't it?

Sorry, at the end I see it is not short.

One funny thing about Finland. Yesterday, I went to see my good friend and he somewhere, somehow, found one song. Russian song, recorded somewhere in 1930, about the 16th state of the USSR - Finland! Soviets were so sure on defeating Finland in Winter War that they recorded official song about beauty of Soviet Finland, and about loyalty of finnish people, hehe.


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1935 Estonia becomes increasingly frantic about the threat from Soviet Russia to the east and Nazi Germany to the west. In the meantime, Estonia prospers, with GDP reaching or surpassing Nordic levels.


What's GDP?

And nice you finally reaced independence.

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PS First open protest vs sovjet 1987, you say? Myst be because of my birth (born that year...) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> DS


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Gross domestic product or GDP is the value of all goods and services produced in a country in a calendar year. The gross domestic product includes only final goods and services, not goods and services used to make another product.

Changes in the gross domestic product are an indication of economic output.



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Ah, BNP! (I think...) Was it /head or only total for the whole country? In case two, it was pretty good, since I recon there lived more pepole in the nordic countries than in Estonia. Nice in case one too, I guess...

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PS If one countries GDP (it was...) goes up, another's country's GDP has to go down. Just as you know... DS


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Ah, BNP! (I think...) Was it /head or only total for the whole country? In case two, it was pretty good, since I recon there lived more pepole in the nordic countries than in Estonia. Nice in case one too, I guess...

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PS If one countries GDP (it was...) goes up, another's country's GDP has to go down. Just as you know... DS


Right Übe. Another figure is - GNP - Gross National Product. GDP plus the income accruing to domestic residents from productive activities abroad, minus the income earned in domestic markets accruing to foreigners abroad.

But I mentioned GDP <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Here comes my country - Estonia.

800-1100 A.D. Estonian vikings raiding Baltic Sea.
Estonians kidnap Norwegian Queen Astrid and her son, future King Olaf Trygvesson—sell them into slavery. Estonians destroy Sweden’s main town, Sigtuna.


Um, not very polite ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Thank God it's quite a time away now ... but it's quite impressive, imho : Vikings sell a Queen into slavery ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


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Yes, true Alrik.

There is a unique lake in Estonia - Kaali Lake.

Kaali meteorite craters

Lake Kaali: Grave of the Sun


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