Ideals are wonderful, but are rarely planned and executed well. I mean everyone would agree that Vietnam was a total screw-up right?
Oh, I don't know... Soviet was involed in a war with Afganistan (I think) which whent about as good...
And if we're not talking war, I think Tjernobyl was the total screw up. But that's just my highlly personal oppinion... Maybe concurrented by Hiroshima/Nagasaki, but that's only if the theory I wrote about in the Arguamentive Git thread is true...
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