Larian Studios Forums General Chat RPG Chat Judge my suprize...

A word of warning:

Some sections of KoTOR II are going to really annoy people
or totally piss them off.
Lot’s of patience will be required in some areas
and a bit of well planned tactics are necessary
in order to complete some of those sections.

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I've finally started to play for real! O'm off the first planet with my dark-side consular! The first planet were very linear, and there weren't many quests of any bigger difficultie. I think it will be more old fashioned RPG quests now though...

Übereil

I would advise building up your Intelligence to a minimum of 16.
A whole lot of alternate dialogs and solve paths open up at Int. 16 and higher.
Also, keep in mind in the Sith Lords the Higher your Charisma the less penalties you suffer when using opposing Light/Dark force powers.
Your NPC's also fight better with you.

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yup, I heard you suddenlly need int to speak... What happened to the int OR wis feature? I'm currentlly sticking to my dark-side bash-em-all char, I'm thinking of playing sentinel when changeing to light side though...

I allso have a question about graphics. They look great in the ordinary game, but movies reminds me of old Quake 1 graphics. Anyone who happens to know why?

Übereil

On some things Obsidian used different software in the creation of KoTORII than Bioware did in the original KoTOR.
Obsidian dumbed down the games graphics and details a bit so it would run smoother on lower end machines.
Obsidian focused more on KoTORII’s story and RPG dialog than they did on the Arcade style of game play. In essence KoTORII is a truer RPG than the original KoTOR.

Playing a Jedi Sentinel is absolutely the best bang for your money when playing KoTORII and was the first Character class I played in KoTORII. I would suggest a min INT of 16 and a min CHA of 14 and then make sure your Awareness and Persuade is always maxed out. This will ensure you get the most dialogs possible without going to extremes. I am currently playing a new Character a Jedi Counselor and I’m building him mainly with CHA as his main attribute. At 8th level I currently have an 18 CHA and a lot of dialogs that I failed in Persuades and Influence before are opening up to me now. It makes the story even more interesting.

WIS is still very important in KoTORII, but Obsidian wanted to balance the game making it a truer RPG. Thereby giving the player more options on how to build their character, the player is no longer forced to do things a certain way to have an enjoyable game experience.

You’ll note implants are now CON constitution related. The higher your CON the better the implant level you can use.
You can cross class your skills now by choosing them as a Feat that way you only spend one skill point towards that skill instead of two.

When you are forced to play other Characters don’t just do the main plot if you can do other things. Mess around and walk around. For example B-4D4 have him talk to other droids in the other sections and have him talk to the guy you got the droid tech. credentials from. Play the game and see what happens if you don’t erase B-4D4’s Czerka ties.

That’s how open this game is compared to the first KoTOR.

KoTORII is a truer RPG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

My own theory about the Force.

AlrikFassbauer >

It's funny that you say that in your link, because that's what
"The Sith Lords" is all about and your teacher, in essence,
is trying to teach you that fact of Grey.
Whereas both Light and Dark is required in the individual
in order to grow into what a Jedi is really supposed to be and become.

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Interesting. I don't have both games since I decided to buy them when I have a new PC. And I don't know when that will be.

i always wondering,
yoda has become almost 1000 years old.
how long did it take to find out that he had these powers and ho wlong he was a jedi in his life??
And what is his race? are every creatures like him so fast

Actually we don't know much about Yoda. Like Palpatine he is one of the truly "strange" characters, so we cannot say.

Not even any of the books say anything about him, except for maybe the stupid kids books I never read about Benny and Jenny ( making up those names ) the jedi young knight thigies... Yeah.

Well, to go back on topic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />:

I acually started playing KotOR again whis Wednesday (after seeing SW episode 2, which I didn't like that much btw...), and am finally going <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. I put my dark sider in the thrash can (couldn't play him anyway, I just said thing I didn't want to say. I'm a lightsider to the bone...) and made a jedi sentinel. I've just left Telos (and I've crafted a lightsaber <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />). Am enjoing the game greatlly, those 450 (or what it was...) is finally paying back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. The game so far far supperior to KotOR1 btw.

Übereil

@ Ube -> u've said it! KOTOR 2 is the best RPG story-wise ever!

Tsel, i agree with u about intelligence having more impact than before. even that doesn't make us better players if we somehow choose the wrong options in conversation. & that makes this game so so so great.

what i really love about this game is the relationships between characters & the end is very heart-wrenching. very few games can do that. dark isn't the dark that i perceived, light isn't light as i preceived. labels attached to different parts of one big picture.

KOTOR2 gives me hope in the future of story-driven RPG.

i am also a hopeless light-side player. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

has anyone play according to personal code or principle? i mean that instead of levelling up or trying to reach certain conditions to further empower one's character. example; u may be evil with no qualms on killing people at random but u don't lie nor do u kill children.

this i mean by playing according to your real self/inclination but not by games convention of goody 2-shoes versus mindless evil.

SECOND best! Ps:T is better...

Otherwise I agree. My character stubbornlly claims that he's not a Jedi (since he isn't!), if that's what you mean. I like him by the way, he's a lvl 15 Jedi Sentinel and lvl 2 or 3 Weapond Master (I was considering going wathman, but didn't have the energy yo sneak around and backstab pepole <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />), and I really like him. He's getting good base stats too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> (the only minus is that I somehow lost my +3 bonus to strenght form being light mastery (or whatever they call it). It's a bit annoying that you can get up there pretty easy, and then get loads of light side points, but as soon as you do something dark side, you loose that bonus. And sometimes you don't even know why...). Now, all I need is a good Jedi Robe, and my personal chrystal (my brother mentioned it to me, I wonder where it is. My guess is Dantoine btw).



If only it could be longer, I've played since wednesday, and I'm allready startinjg to see the end of it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />. And it's allso a little to linear for my likeing...

And about playing Dark Side, I get scared of doing it, cos you see a clear dark side alternative (unless you give me my ship back, I'm gonna rip you up it two!), but you're scared to say it, because you don't want to get the whole base after you (simply because you think that is just a little too hard for you right now). So, you feel all the truly dark side sayings would only get you into loads of trouble, and since I try to roleplay neutral evil (don't care of others, just do what gains YOU the most), this isn't very smart.

Übereil

(chuckle)

Yes, but playing a Dark Side character is so much fun
when you can Force Persuade thugs to jump off into a pit
and kill themselves. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

I might try it later on... I remember playing evil in Arcanum. MAN you could be a mean [nocando] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />! In KotOR it feels like being a mean [nocando] only gets you into trouble <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />.

Übereil

It depends on who you mainly take with you in your party.
HK-47 and Hanharr are your best choices for party members
if you are playing a DS character; because, you get some
nice stat increases during the game with them.
Also, being evil in KoTOR2 is more humorous evil
than evil, evil. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

I havn't been able to fix HK yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />... And who is Hanhar <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />...

And at least I found being evil in Arcanum was extremelly humorous <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. Espessially if you had Geoffry (or whatever the dud outside the Ashbury cementery was called) in your party <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. When he got to the place in the middle of the wasteland between Tarant and Ashbury (northeast of Tarant, west of Ashbury. It's some kind of old temple, full of undead) and met the old warrior of the old order (their still active, they're the ones that tried to kill you. Maybe I should refresh my memory of names in Arcanum <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />). It turns out Geffry is a member of that order as well...

Übereil

If you are a LS character you will not get Hanharr; you will get Mira instead.

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

What does DS, LS mean ? Death Star, okay, but LS ? Light Star ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />