To all: I am not closing this thread (or any other thread), neither will I remove it.
Discussions are normal in life and having different opinions too. It's up to you to keep it polite.
Thats good and right.
I read the Discussion here very interested, becouse the meaning and the knowing about the Nazi Time in Germany from People who are not living in Germany are sometime very interesting.
Yep, it is not the Pope who will interest me, not the old, not the new <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
thats the reason for me only to read.
But now there is a thing i like to say.
And before i do that, i like to say to Setharmon that this will not having something to do with the Fact that you bring here, that the new Pope was a Member of the Hilter Youth. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
[color:"orange"] Hans Scholl, one of the leading figures of the Anti-Nazi resistance movement White Rose (Weiße Rose), also became a member of the Hitler Youth.[/color]
Source My reason to write this, are the different Posting here which will mention that "thousand of Thousand" of People are not in the Hitler Youth.
This is not correct. But this is not so importand becouse the Members of the Hitler Youth are very young, and they came (in the later Years of the Nazi Regime) not from a free life in this Organization. There was an Organization called "Deutsches Jungvolk" which will do the indoctrination for the younger Kids.
Here an other Quote from this Wikipedia Site
In December of 1936, Hitler Youth membership stood at just over 5 million. That same month, the Hitler Youth became obligatory and membership was required by law (Gesetz über die Hitlerjugend). This obligation was affirmed in 1939 with the Jugenddienstpflicht. Membership could be enforced even against the will of the parents. From that point, most of Germany's teenagers were incorporated into the Hitler Youth, and by 1940, the total membership reached eight million.
Thats the facts. All youth, in this Time, have to be a Member. But they are children, or not much older than children. So i dont see a reason too "forgive" something, becouse the Children not guilty for anything.
The adults in this Time are the guiltys.
And the adults in this time do Hilter elected in a regular Voting. That is the importand thing which we have to remember and never forget.
And, we all knows this, the most germans in this time were not a kind of children eating Monsters. They were normal people like you and me.
And so i think the same §hit can happen again if we start to relativate the effect of the Nazi Regime, and the Hitler Youth was an effect of this. If we say that the most Kids are not a member of this Organization, we can also say that the most Germans are not a Member of the NSDAP, and then we can say fine, this will never happens again, becouse there a only a little bunch of criminals and sicks who will brings this over Germany and the World.
And then, i fear, will it happen again.
So, please dont relativate this Time.