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OK. I had like a reaaaaaaal long answer on Glance post (15 minutes typing). But while adding and editing it, it suddenly disapeared. And I'm not gonna type it all again!

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What a shame! I am curious - now that you mentioned it was worth a lengthy answer. (But I certainly understand the aggravation - I'd feel the same frustration)

@Glance?

You ever read "Die Götter waren Astronauten" by Erich von Däniken?

Interesting view on mankind and where it originate from, how it got their knowledge.
You might like it. If only to discus it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Seth >

That is a very good book, if I'm not mistaken
the English title for that book is "Chariots of the Gods?".

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I think so. But not really sure anymore.
It's one of those books you have to be open for. And that's the problem with mankind. If it doesn't agree with everything they been taught to believe ...
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Very, very long time ago I read something from Erich von Däniken - it was still at school, so must be 30 years since...

An alternative approach to a number of phenomen. Good in so far as it opens the mind to alternative interpretations, and questioning traditional ones. Not saying that his are valid though. Some have been disproven, some can't be (yet?).

That alone makes them interesting. Nice change from the rest. People get lied to more than enough these days. Can't trust news, can't trust sience,...

[color:"orange"] The point, for me, rather is that Man not only has the capability to recognize the consequences, but even to make a realistic prognisis for the future. [/color]

[color:"pink"] But we have become more conscious of actions like these and actions that previously were trained instinct have become a conscious thought in most people nowadays.
Meaning they know better and choose instead of it being a knee jerk reaction.
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One thing here: the progresses in human moralty, mentality, thoughts, conciousness, etc. are far slower than the technical ones. Also, science and technique are sponsored, and thus directed by the economic powers; and the ones making use of it are often not the best ones to forsee the consequences. In the present system, economy is greatly what rules the actions/decisons; the consequences don't weight so much in the decision balance. It brings to my mind the idea of a five years old kid playing with a loaded gun. Also, human learns more from the effects, when it's done and that they're stuck with the consequences of their actions. That brought, and still brings horrible episodes. As for prognosis, they're not so reliable/not much considered; think about climate change & global warming.

For those who think mankind will/would/could evolve though technology; how do you see it? What would happen of the organic nature ("life" as we know it), physical environment? Would man use science/technique to restore or modify? To repair, to prevent or to change?

@Seth
15 minutes to type? it's not that much; come on, type it again, I'm sure it's worth it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> But do it with Word or something like that, and save it every minute this time to be sure not to lose it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Yes, I've heard that before, because even Philosophers are getting concerned about that.

It's easy to drop a bomb without thinking.

Aren't you the one who told me I type fast? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
You know I can type fast once I get started.
And I can't reproduce it anymore. It was an answer from the heart... or mind. Not something I planned. I prolly could post something similar. But not the same thing anymore. And I prolly forgot about a few of the things/replies that came to my mind back then.

[color:"orange"] One thing here: the progresses in human moralty, mentality, thoughts, conciousness, etc. are far slower than the technical ones. [/color]
That is the darn truth - and as deplorable as this is, one of the reasons, as you indicate, is that these fields of research are not funded in the same volume. These are not the fields for easy or quantifiable 'gains'. There aren't even Nobel prizes to be won, no worldwide recognitition. Reputation stays within a limited and exclusive, purely scientific community. They definitely need some marketing on their image <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] What would happen of the organic nature ("life" as we know it), physical environment? Would man use science/technique to restore or modify? To repair, to prevent or to change? [/color]

- to restore? I have me doubts..., rather no - if so then on a limited scale
- to modify? We are doing constantly.
- to repair? Repair by replacement with something other ('profitable')? To some extent.

- to prevent? Now that's a tricky one. Would technology be used to prevent organic nature? No ( <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> I know, that was not meant to be the question; I just couldn't resist <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />). But seriously, technology is used to prevent or mitigate harmful consequences to nature. Not enough, can be argued, not to the extent technically possible also. But it's there, and growing. Unfortunately I have to agree - it must hurt, before a healing process is started. And to come back to individualism I mentioned earlier - it must hurt the individual, before pressure is applied to society to do something. Some obscure hole in the ozone layer will not entice the individual to desist from using hair spray or renounce on air conditioning on a hot summer day. Not before we have a hot winter day, at least <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

Boy that is the truth.
I was not around, but my very best friend, when I was a little child, was playing with his brother and his brother pulled out his fathers 30 / 30 rifle.
Well to make a long story short the older brother accidentally shot and killed his younger brother my friend.
The older brother was never the same after that.
We as humans, after we do something to mess up the balance of things,
are never the same neither.

Tsel

[color:"orange"] The older brother was never the same after that. [/color]
I wonder about the father, having left a weapon lying around unattended - loaded and accessible to kids...

LaFille >

It's up to you to choose a winner to start off another topic.

Tsel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

@Tsel
You're right. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Appologies for my silence, the girl got caught and had <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> computer troubles.

I didn't know we had to chose a winner (a winner in a discussion topic!?!). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
So I pass the torch to any who participated, had not started a topic yet and has a question to submit. So HandEFoot, janggut, Setharmon or Alrik, it's all yours. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Thanks to all for your answers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

So now we'll ahev FOUR topics to follow <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />???

Übereil

i say give Seth the torch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> i bet he has a lot in his mind. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

as for me, i've just flashed my memory. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

maybe

But I'm sure it is better when most stays hidden. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

A serious topic? Give me a day to clear my head and I may come up with something interesting. It's been a draining and long week and I sure as hell can't think right now.

Sure
Blame it on the bd. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But that also means you had a good time.
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