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Benjamin, this are great news ! I tried it many times but I can't installed DD directly from the CD's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I don't know what the people from SuSE / Novell did that it now works. Or maybe the installation doen't work on my system because a have the old German version ? Ok, now to your problem:
wine says me: unload the debugger and try again.
In normal cases this comes from the copy protection. You should try to install the latest patch for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> (backup your whole dd-directory because it is easier to restore it as to reinstall it) !
wineX says nothing, but shows me the startup screen for about a minute and then exits
Do you have mounted the cd-drive with the game cd inside ? So as I know is the support for copy protection in WineX / Cedega a lot better than in Wine but without any error message it is the problem hard to discover <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
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I updated it, and wine is not telling me anymore to disable the debugger, but it keeps asking "please put cdrom 3 in the cd-rom drive" my guess is that i have to change the mount point, because i took my cd-rom reader out. How do i do that? and cedega keeps doing the same <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />
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Strange ... ok, so far as I remember me correctly used SuSE a tool which is called "automounter" and a few other tools / programs which depend on the automounter. The automounter make the life for you easier. automatically mounting of cd's, usb-sticks, dvd after you put them into your pc drive or usb slot. This is a problem for wine or better for the drive letters for the faked windows system. First a question: How many cd/dvd reader/burner did you have into your pc ? Ok, try we it slowly <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Please put the output of this two commands here (please without the quotes):
"ls -la ~/.wine/dosdevices" (please as this user which is running wine)
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"ls -la /dev/cdroms/" (please do this as user root / system administrator)
If it possible then please put the output of this command
"cat /etc/fstab" (please do this as user root / system administrator)
If you want and you didn't know them, can I explain you the above commands.
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Please, by all means explain! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" /> this is what i got:
totaal 1
drwxr-xr-x 2 alucard users 552 2005-05-18 16:43 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 alucard users 216 2005-05-18 19:22 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 13 2005-05-18 16:43 a: -> /media/floppy
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 8 2005-05-18 16:43 a:: -> /dev/fd0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 c: -> ../drive_c
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 com1 -> /dev/ttyS0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 com2 -> /dev/ttyS1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 com3 -> /dev/ttyS2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 com4 -> /dev/ttyS3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 17 2005-05-18 16:43 d: -> /media/cdrecorder
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 15 2005-05-18 16:43 d:: -> /dev/cdrecorder
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 10 2005-05-18 16:43 e: -> /media/dvd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 8 2005-05-18 16:43 e:: -> /dev/dvd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 18 2005-05-18 16:43 f: -> /media/LARIAN_DIV1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 16 2005-05-18 16:43 f:: -> /dev/LARIAN_DIV1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 18 2005-05-18 16:43 g: -> /media/LARIAN_DIV2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 16 2005-05-18 16:43 g:: -> /dev/LARIAN_DIV2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 14 2005-05-18 16:43 h: -> /media/usbdisk
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 12 2005-05-18 16:43 h:: -> /dev/usbdisk
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 8 2005-05-18 16:43 lpt1 -> /dev/lp0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 4 2005-05-18 16:43 x: -> /tmp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 13 2005-05-18 16:43 y: -> /home/alucard
lrwxrwxrwx 1 alucard users 1 2005-05-18 16:43 z: -> /
alucard@dD5E0AAE5:~> su
Password:
dD5E0AAE5:/home/alucard # ls -la /dev/cdroms/
/bin/ls: /dev/cdroms/: Onbekend bestand of map
dD5E0AAE5:/home/alucard # cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda2 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/hdb1 /windows/C ntfs ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/sda1 /windows/D vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hda1 swap swap pri=42 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
/dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/dvd /media/dvd subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0
dD5E0AAE5:/home/alucard #
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Thank you ! Ok, now the explanation of the commands: "ls -la <path>""ls" stands for "list directory contents" the option "-la" of the commands is a shorted version from "-l -a" whereas "-l" means long and "-a" means all or the whole comand stand for "list all the content of the directory <path> in a long version" <path> is a wildcard for the two directory path which you used whereas the "~" in "~/.wine/dosdevice" the meaning had: use the home directory of the current user cat <file>"cat" stands for "concatenate files and print on the standard output" You used only one file (/etc/fstab) and this file is displayed in your console application. The file "fstab" in the /etc directory contains all the mount points of your well known drives (hard disc, floppy, dvd, cd burner, ...) Back to the divinity will not run on linux problem: So far as i understand dutch means the message
dD5E0AAE5:/home/alucard # ls -la /dev/cdroms/
/bin/ls: /dev/cdroms/: Onbekend bestand of map
that this directory doesn't exists, but this is not a problem. Can you try out this: Access the third <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> CD (let you show the content of the CD) and then start <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> with wine ? Does the "Please Insert CD 3" message again ?
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It still shows me the same message <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> but i hear my floppy drive searching <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> someone told me to uninstall wineX and then reinstall it for the drives to be recognized correctly. Should i <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> I think i found the problem... but i don't know how to solve it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> I noticed that, when i insert a cd, linux makes an extra map in my /media like: /media/LARIAN_DIV3 instead of /media/cdrecorder/LARIAN_DIV3 do you know how to change that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
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Do you have wine and winex installed ? Then it is better to deinstall wine and winex and reinstall wine ! After this, try it again.
If this doesn't worked then iI have an other idee !
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but how can i play other games then (they still need X) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />
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someone told me to uninstall wineX and then reinstall it for the drives to be recognized correctly. Should i <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> As far as i know this would not help you because all the configuration data will not be deleted if you remove winex (or wine). You must remove this configuration data seperatly. For WineX i must guess where are the configuration data is located in your home directory ... maybe ".transgaming", ".cedega" or ".winex" .. but don't remove it, rename it. If something doesn't worked, you can restore it easily.
I noticed that, when i insert a cd, linux makes an extra map in my /media
like: /media/LARIAN_DIV3
instead of /media/cdrecorder/LARIAN_DIV3
do you know how to change that?
Sorry, I have no knowledge about the SuSE automounter systen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> but how can i play other games then (they still need X) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> Ok, which version of WineX / Cedega do you have and from where comes this version (shippend with SuSE 9.3, ...) ?
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i think i should not touch the config then (as i have little knowledge about that) and it is Cedega 4.3.1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> but it is not included in SuSE (wine is)
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Sorry, with this version of Cedega I didn't have any experiences <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I don't know no way to get it legally <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
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wich version did you use?
maybe i can back up to that version
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It think that is not possible for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I used the "opensource" version of cedega which means that is this code which they (trangaming) must be published duet to licences determinations. Cedega aka WineX is a fork of the wine project which is a opensource project (now under the licences of LPGL). The "opensource" version of Cedega doesn't include optimized graphic routines or support for varius copyprotections system (only a few which also working in wine). I will add sooner or later a notice to my guide that the support of winex / cedega will not be longer exists and removed after a while. Sorry, I see no way how I can help you with Cedega execpt I get a recent Cedega version on a legal way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
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so back on-topic: he still asks me for the third cd with wine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> do you know a way for me to play without cd?
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Check this topic for details on how to play without the CD, at least for most of the time. The play CD will still be required at two points in the game, for cut scene videos on the CD.
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Benjamin, can you please try my following suggestion before you try Raze's suggestion ? Put the third cd (game cd) into your cd burner or cd drive. I assume that you put the cd in your cd burner (because you wrote that you remove your cd reader). Assuming your posted /etc/fstab please open a console an execute the following code as user root (you can try it also as normal user but I don't know if this works on your system) Now open an other console an change to the "~/.wine/dosdevices/" directory ("cd ~/.wine/dosdevices"). Assuming your posting about the content of the "~.wine/deosdevices" directory you must now the the content of the game cd if you execute this command or you change to the "d:" directory and should see now the content of the game cd. If you use the "/media/dvd" mount point into the mount-command above (if you use your dvd drive) then the content of the game cd should be in "e:". If this doesn't work, try Raze's suggestion and told me please if one of this two suggestions work or not !
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Thanks Raze, but your's did not help <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> Xanlosch, to me he still said "no medium found" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> ps: sorry for the late reply, went to a party last night <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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I think the is a package (rar file) missing. As i know from installing of the German version the is a rar file which will be installed if you run the first time the game or after installing the German retail version and install the first German patch you must insert the 3rd cd (game cd) and the rar-file "dat.rar" from the 3rd cd will installed from the game or the patch itself. Did you have in the "Run" directory of our <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> installation a subdirectory which is called "dat" and this directory contains a lot ".dat" files ? For example: "props.dat", "skillprops.dat", "magic.cmp", a subdirectory called "monologues" ? It is also be possible that an other rar file must be installed (from the game or manually) but I don't know which file <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> A oggd way to solve this problem is: remove your <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> installation and install it in the manual way. This means that you must extract all the rar files manually as I described it. The start of the install-program is not necessary if you create the directories manual. Maybe I should buy / get an English <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> version but where ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
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If you inserted the 'startup logo 0' line at the end if the config.div file, you need to hit the enter key before saving the file. The game expects the last line to be blank, so will not recognize the change otherwise.
You may also need to have the latest patch installed in order for skipping the into videos to avoid checking the play CD on startup.
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@ Xanlosch: alucard@dD576DCC2:~/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Divine Divinity/Run/dat> ls
automap_0_1024.lzb automap_1_4096.lzb automap_3_2048.lzb English
automap_0_1024.lzi automap_1_4096.lzi automap_3_2048.lzi flat.cmp
automap_0_2048.lzb automap_2_1024.lzb automap_3_4096.lzb global.cmp
automap_0_2048.lzi automap_2_1024.lzi automap_3_4096.lzi magic.cmp
automap_0_4096.lzb automap_2_2048.lzb automap_4_1024.lzb monologues
automap_0_4096.lzi automap_2_2048.lzi automap_4_1024.lzi props.000
automap_1_1024.lzb automap_2_4096.lzb automap_4_2048.lzb sound.cmp
automap_1_1024.lzi automap_2_4096.lzi automap_4_2048.lzi statuspl.cmp
automap_1_2048.lzb automap_3_1024.lzb automap_4_4096.lzb treasure.cmp
automap_1_2048.lzi automap_3_1024.lzi automap_4_4096.lzi wgiaa.000
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> not much .dat's @ Raze: i will try it right away <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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