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Good news: The weather was really hot, and I finally got my supersized mousepad and supersliding mouse!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />
Bad news: What bad news can there be when you have a super duper mousepad!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> (Lafille <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

That's true, and btw in French litterature there has also been a period that was quite only about emotions (romantism), often only on reflexion, emotions and remberance, without "acting" story. But I agree with you that such books can be harsh to read, to connect to when you're not used to it or really don't like it.

Good news: I found an elegant and funny way to solve my father's day gift problem: I had two gift ideas between wich I couldn't split so I made a card showing him the two options inside so he'd choose himself; I'll go to get what he chose this week. What I did is to put the card in a box with stones in it to make it heavy and wrapped it as a present, so he had somethind to open. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Bad news: lovely doggie licked the icing on a side of the father's day cake while we weren't looking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] What I did is to put the card in a box with stones in it to make it heavy and wrapped it as a present, so he had somethind to open.[/color]

Please, please let me out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Good News: Here is a Summerday.
Bad News: I dont want hear bad News <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

@ Stone & Fille -> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

@ Gal -> maybe your clumsiness is so adorable to your hubby & that is why he is married to u. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

@ Ube -> maybe u should read Les 'Not' Miserables a.k.a Les Crazies in Love. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> it's a romantic story about how Gal fell in love with her hubby. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />

@ Lews -> what if summer will suck in something nice? wouldn't it be great? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

@ Jurak -> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> i will make sure the toilet is vacant & fully operational before trying that recipe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

That's nothing ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> Our dog - we had one ten years or so ago - actually eat the dough (is that the right word ?) for Pizza before it came into the oven ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> I still don't understand why he didn't burst ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

As a young dog, he even once eat a sock ... it came out one day, with the help of my grandfather.

I wouldn't want to eat socks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Romantism or Realism. That's where we should pick our books from. We could only think of one author from the romantic period, and that was Jane Austen, and thatnks to my englishteacher I don't whant to read Jane Austen...
And books without emotionsa at all, just acting, is so very dry. When I'd got those five pages I though "It's going to be like this for another three books???". THEN I pit it away.
Started to read Jane Eyre yesterday. Promising start...

Good news: I got my grades today (went by bike downtown and picked them up). They looked nice, I think. Of cause I allready knew most of them, but still. Proud of my MVG in Math C.
Bad news: Man it's hot! And I didn't find Wizardry 8 when I went through TV-spelsbörsen's second hand games <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />. Can't find it on Piratebay either (but I found Wizardry 1-7, which I'm trying to dl now. The speed is an impressive 1 KB/s). Wondering what I should play after KotOR2...

Übereil

Could you stop to say things like that ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />
After reading only five pages of a novel you are able to judge the complete novel. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

All the people who have read "Les Misérables" can say that the characters are acting and that they have also deep feelings.
And this novel is also a good painting of the french society during the middle of the 19th centurie.
You are completely wrong.

You could say i don't like this novel but you can't say that the Victor Hugo's characters have no emotions or that the novel is not good.


[color:"orange"] What is your grade in litterature ? [/color]

Barta

We have no litterature chourse, the closest we have is Swedish, and I think I've got a sound MVG <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. I feel my teacher is a little too enthusiastic about my development...

Ok, I admit saying things like that after only reading four pages (realized it was four pages, not five <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />) was a bit quick. But I CAN say the didn't show any emotions these four pages, and from my own experience, things doesn't change THAT much during a book. So, they might have emotions, but at least the don't SHOW them.

I asked my mother what she thought about it. She said it was better as film, and allso that she's not sure she got through it.

I DO think it's a great book in the meaning of showing the French society in the 19th century (that's why I started reading it in the first place) but it's not a very entertaining. And if I don't like the novel, that usually meant it's not a good novel, doesn't it?

Übereil

@ Janggut
Actually it works in both ways. He is also clumsy sometimes, and I find it very attractive in a man, it makes him look so innocent <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />



@ Janggut (again) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
You are just to kind today <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

@ Üb
It may have emotions in it for me, but you really really have to give it a chance. Maybe not now, you don't seem to be ready to read a book of that calibre, but maybe one day you will be ready. And I hope I still hear from you to hear what you think of that. And I hope you enjoy Jane Eyre, It's one of the books on my list that I still have to read.

Right now I'm reading some books of Nicci French, very good too but very creepy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Good news: My dear hubby bought me a dryer today. Woohoo, less time to spend on the ironing and more time for my pc <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />

Well it's good.


In real life a lot of people don't show their emotions because they think that it is private.
In a novel the characters can also hide their emotions but reading the novel it is possible to feel that the writer had imagined his characters full of emotions.



I understand that you think this novel is not entertaining and i understand that you don't enjoy reading it.
But it is a school work. Isn't it ?
During the lessons about the novel, you will learn a lot of things that you missed reading the book.



I don't agree.
If you don't like the novel, it's only mean that you don't like the novel ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/alien.gif" alt="" />

Barta

Prehaps, but I don't know what the writer DIDN'T write, I only know what he wrote. And if he didn't wrote any emotions, then they didn't have any emotions. If he'd meant them to have emotions, he'd given them emotions. And if he meant them to have emotions but didn't give them emotions, then he failed.



Our task is to over the summer holiday write a book from either the romantic period or the realistic period. Any book at all. And the work isn't about the books, it's about the era. What is typical for the romantic/realistic period?



But in my book, not likeing the novel makes it a bad novel, in my book. Why wouldn't I like a good novel?

Übereil

@ Ube

I don't agree with you but i am a little tired with this discussion.
Your point of view about litterature is completely different from mine.



If you can choose any book, forget "Les Misérables" and do your school work about a novel you like.
You should read several novels and then you would choose the better one for doing your work.

Barta

Agree to that.



What?!? I NEVER thought of that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />!!!

Allready told you I' reading Jane Eyre <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />. And I'm not sure exactlly how we will work with our novels. I was thinking of reading one or two novels from the romantic period as well (my brother gave me some good advice).

Übereil

I include Emotions in my story - to be exact : Senses. I try to write in a way so that the highest number of senses is being involved (aka : emulated). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> I want a full-sense experience for the reader. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Ube, there are times when it's good that books don't tell people their emotions. just what they do. but then what they do is a good indication of how they feel.

take a newspaper article & read about some incident on fire or car accident or anything. the consequences can tell u how do people feel. u know very well newspaper style of writing is very cold so i hope u can appreciate some author's style of writing which doesn't give away every little hint. this style is good as it leaves room for your thoughts & imagination on how the character must've felt when certain things happen.

if u want lots of emotions that show too much, maybe u want to read romance books. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Can we get back on topic now? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Good news: We finally found a car!! It's a Fiat Tempra, 10 years old, but you wouldn't say when you see it. I really have to remember to hang my Celtic Cross in our new car, it's my personal amulet for protection.
Bad news: No bad news for today!!
Is this my imagination or is it really hot in here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

@ Gal Thanks for the advice but my body is used and I am really ok. I never get sick. Just a flu once in a year or two. And slaming doors helps a lot. A lot, lot.

@ Ube
I suggest you reconsider for the novel. IMHO it is a mastrpiece of french litterature. Perhaps the time you decided to read it is not right. Winter is more appropriate for such a book. You know stay inside a warm place, have nothing to do outdoors... And always IMHO there are a lot of feelings and values in that book. Teach us a lot of things even of it writen for a different era than the one we are living.

@ Al
Very nice dog your dog indeed.

@LaFille
Well it will never stop amaze me how much cruel people tend to be. But I am all better now, my leg works fine and I had the chance to know from personal experience how people react in such cases. Another lesson... I will try to avoid such behaviour and be kind to others.

bad news : I have to get back to work. Banks on Stike. My office is a mad house right now.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


I hope that your dog was a big one and that the socks were small summer socks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Last summer, a neighbourg's english setter ate nylon tights. It came out too a few days later but the owner took no chance and relied on the vet to "help" it. How a dog can do to swallow such things is quite a mistery to me... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


In romantic litterature (at least for the French movement), the most typical characteristics are the liberation of "I" (individuality & emotions), the "nature feeling" (they give a great importance to nature in their texts and often relate natural elements to emotions or ideas) and a proclivity to gloom.
I had a big part of a litterature course on the French romantic period last year; I don't know if it's because of the works chosen or if it's really that the romantic period don't fit my tastes, but it's been one of the courses that I had the most difficulty to get motivated to work at... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

@Lucreatia
I like your attitude towards all that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Good news: The weather is so lovely today that I'll allow myself the luxury to take my afternoon off and go to spend it outside. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> The last weeks were extreme so the girl'll take the good time as it passes. No bad news yet for me today. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Bad News: ÖSK only got 0-0 vs Väsby United <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />! The result was as embarresing as their game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />...
Good News: the transferwindow opens the first...

Übereil

@ LaFille I like your points of view very much too. From what I have read up till now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good news : I had a three day vacation. The sun is still great, I finished work today and had a good resting sleep and on Friday I went to an Agyptian restaurant, tasted great food and met some really interesting people.

Bad news : Banks are still on strike. Strike is good but my offiice is still reminds a mental institution. Customers want to pay the products they buy from my company and they do not have any way, and we are talking about a lot of money. The good news in those bad news are that I going down on strike this Friday too.

Edit : Forgot LadySarah <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />
I am glad that you came up to a decision that makes you happy. And you are right. England will always be there after all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />