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#312534 15/08/05 11:12 AM
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What I couldn't understand was that everyone only complained about the DK's voice in the demo, but every voice from the demo was changed for the full game.

I thought the ghost and the skull sounded better in the demo.

Anyway, most of VO work was ok except for one guy who played lots of npc characters, various guards and other minor roles. I can't think of any specific person he played, but his voice and terrible acting really drilled into my head.

Oh, and I think there's one real female voice somewhere in the game. But her acting is atrocious. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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omg, this topic saves me alot of ranting lol.. but since i'm so upset I'll add my ranting in here anyways <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I downloaded the BD demo just three weeks ago and played through it. It reminded me alot of my ol' fave baldurs gate.. different, sure.. but still, interesting enough =)

I must say I for one loved the DK, even his voice.. IMO his voice in the demo is just right.. it has just the right mix of metallic evilness a'la darth vader-ism.. while keeping some intelligence and sarcastic witt..

When I bought the full game, just two weeks ago I was shocked when the DK walked up to me with the line I'd heard so many times in the demo "Ah, you are awake human" Instead of the cool darth vader I find they've switched the voice actor to some washed up death metal singer who grunts out the words.. seriousely, the new take on the DK is horrible.. its like larian wanted him to sound more "evil" but all they accomplished with that voice was to make him sound like a big stupid grunt. or an ogre, a troll.

I was happy with the old one thankyou very much.. perhaps listening to your fans isnt a good thing all of the time? You scored the first time larian.. you should'have trusted that and kept it.


oo and btw, I have a theory why they changed the skull's voice from the perfectly usable old one from the demo to the weird arnold one. This should teach larian never to have a booze night at the office with a recorder nearby, *and* the power to add recordings into the game (whilst drunken still)!! lol, seriousely.. it couldhave happened right? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

#312536 03/12/05 07:45 AM
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hey man, you should try out divine divinity too, much of us say its a lot better and there is no problem with voice actting there.
Beyond divinity has quite lineair gameplay, DD has total freedom and so on.

I agree the voice acting is bad in BD, yes...at least the first three chapters...i didnt play further...


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The voice acting isn't great in Beyond Divinity, but it doesn't bother me anymore, in fact it never really did. Not all of it is bad I thought. The voice of the ghost of Edmond was very good in my opinion: it feels ghostlike and at the same time he seems exhausted and sad. The whole atmosphee around him is just right.

Anyway, @ Kite_Summers: Welcome to the forum <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


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Thank you for the welcome =)


Acctually, I just installed divine divinity this morning :P haven't started playing yet though, I always rack my brains for several hours before I can find a name for my damn character! lol

I've played thru the DD demo before, so I know abit about it.. the voice acting in the first village is miles ahead of most of the BD stuff...

But anyway.. some of the voiceacting wasn't too bad in BD.. the remake of the ghost was so good I almost forgave them for screwing the DK..(almost) the old ghost sounded like the sound file had weird errors and static on it.. hehe.. the new one really sounds exhausted.. almost like the voice is fading away into nothingness..a very ghostly quality indeed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

anyways, the voiceacting shouldn't deterr people from at least finishing the game.. its still a solid and interesting game IMO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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anyways, the voiceacting shouldn't deterr people from at least finishing the game.. its still a solid and interesting game IMO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hear hear.


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#312540 04/12/05 02:52 PM
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I was happy with the old one thankyou very much.. perhaps listening to your fans isnt a good thing all of the time? You scored the first time larian.. you should'have trusted that and kept it.

Sorry a lot of fans enjoyed the DK's voice in the demo and they were against any change.
But the fans who did not like the DK's voice in the demo complained so loudly and Larian changed the voice.
Finally the new voice was worse than the old one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

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hey man, you should try out divine divinity too, much of us say its a lot better and there is no problem with voice actting there.

I agree with you Divine Divinity is a great game but Beyond Divinity is also a great game.
A different game but a great game.

If you didn't like it and if you stopped playing it, it's your problem.
Your taste about games is not a reference.
I think everybody should play the 2 games and should make his own opinion.

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I think everybody should play the 2 games and should make his own opinion.

I agree, as do most people here I should say.


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#312542 04/12/05 03:28 PM
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I think everybody should play the 2 games and should make his own opinion.

I agree, as do most people here I should say.

No. A lot of people are too confident about what the other people say in the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
And i am getting mad when i read posts from people judging badly a game without having ever played completely this game.

Barta

#312543 04/12/05 05:49 PM
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yeah, you're right. Its just my opinion, I'm not trying to prevent him from playing the game...


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It's not perverted to play BD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />! Oh, you mean prevent... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> Forget I said anything...

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No. A lot of people are too confident about what the other people say in the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Then that is too bad. You can't judge the game unless you have played it yourself. And I am quite confident that those who did will find very little fault indeed in Beyond Divinity.


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#312546 06/12/05 11:31 AM
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Judging these two games seems to be very much like the ol' "bg 1 or bg 2 rules the world question", bg1 offers alot of freedom and that wonderful feeling of noobness.. (wander aimlessly.. get eaten by a lvl 1 wolf, etc) whereas in bg2 theres much more linearity, and your character definately leaves the noobness stages of his/her career to become a real force to be reckoned with... ofcourse no game can ever be as good as the bhaal-saga again but.. larian actually comes closer than most imo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Anyways. I found my char name some time back, and have been playing divine divinity ever since, a couple of days now. Think I'm somewhere, early to mid-game at a level 25. Impressions so far is: I'm impressed! The game is extremely fun.. the quests hold high quality, and the style suits me very well! My favorite moment in-game so far must be the boxing ring under the blue boar inn.. I came there with my weak little level 15 survivor (he's a bow-build) and thought: ok i'll just get into the boxing ring and shoot him with my bow, but nope, it's acctually a fair fight, meaning no weapons allowed. Another try after getting beaten to a pulp in two seconds, I thought, why not coat my fists with poison and just watch him drop? Ah nope.,.that did'nt work either, it says I need a weapon to coat.. ok, so one last try.. I coat a handy knife with poison, throw it into the boxing ring before I get in *te-he* this can't work.. can it? Lol..indeed it did. My thievish [nocando] steps into the ring, swipes up the poisonous dagger (seemingly unnoticed) and well, the big guy fell in one hit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> It was such a dirty underhanded trick.. that I really didnt think it'd work.. but it did, and it became one of those silly roleplaying moments where I could see the scene in front of me.. how my character dexteriousely takes the dagger unnoticed, stashing it away in some cloth sleeve.. and then just make a little gash with it quickly, stay back abit, watch your opponent go groggy, then just poke him once and see him fall.. with the crowd going wild with cheers..lol..

anyways, im rambling again.. hehe.. point is, I never had a moment like this in BD.. suffice to say, this game has already been more enjoyable, *and* much harder! I put it on hard mode from the start.. and it's proving to be quite the challenge.. probably cause im not playing the most powerful build out there.. and I havn't touched the "constitution" score..hehe.. so usually, I get levelled in 1-2 hits.. which makes it kinda.. interesting <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
(altho enemy archers with auto target-one-hit-kill makes me bang my head in brick walls and cry myself to sleep <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> )

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That assassin trick is just marvelous <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> I really have to try that one myself!


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nice trick!
i never read that trick..
another trick was to trow some poison potions in front of the ring, to weaken/kill the boxer.

i realy hope that div2 will have the div1 looks


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i realy hope that div2 will have the div1 looks

I don't think a 2d and a 3d game can be really compared. I do hope the graphics, though very different, will have a similar 'feel', a similar atmosphere.


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#312550 06/12/05 04:23 PM
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Nice trick! I just beated him up when i was fairly high lvl.


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Thanks =) I guess i'm just that sneaky by nature to come up with a thing like that..! (and larian ten times more sneakier to allow me to actually succeed at it lol)


As for the next divinity game keeping the same graphics.. I sure as hell hope it will retain the same style and feel, but sadly I don't think another game like that will *ever* be made again.. the end of the old "3D upon 2D background" was already dying when larian made beyond divinity (probably before). A whole slew of old classics were based on it (the baldurs gate saga, planescape torment, ice wind dale series, fallout 1 & 2, diablo 1 and 2 etc. etc.)
But to compete on todays market all game companies chose to go over to the full 3D look a'la morrowind, or the online games like world of warcraft etc. Now personally, I don't really like these games all that much.. I dont think this evolution (altho natural) is for the best. When bioware took the next step from baldurs gate to neverwinter nights, they screwed up majorely.. NWN is miles away from the old stuff they made.. the entire feel is gone, its just.. no heart <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

The whole evolution can be compared, somewhat accurately IMHO, to the evolution in the movie industries... as a rule old movies had lots of work put on dialogue, intense scenes/feels/moods and strong plots. New movies as a rule, loose too much heart and feel behind the explosions and mass effects.. sure there's always exceptions.. but as a whole.. this is at least my view.. gosh. i'm gonna be one of those old guys nagging about how everything was better in the old days <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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this is at least my view.. gosh. i'm gonna be one of those old guys nagging about how everything was better in the old days <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Yep you look very old. 60 ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Barta

PS : Maybe things were not better in the old days but they were a lot different.
Today there are remakes of a lot of things, songs, movies, TV series, etc.
Some people prefer the original version, other ones prefer the new version.
The same story than the DK's voice story. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
I guess some day, some new company will make an updated version of Divine Divinity, with full 3D graphics, with groundbreaking magic effects but with not any humour and not any poetry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Barta

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When bioware took the next step from baldurs gate to neverwinter nights, they screwed up majorely.. NWN is miles away from the old stuff they made.. the entire feel is gone, its just.. no heart <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

That is exactely how I felt. In the end I still think Neverwinter Nights is a great game, but compared to the Baldur's Gate sage, it will always be a little brother.


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