That's the trouble though, nobody ever voluntarily gives money back to the system. The educational system point is a litle OT but is was a general point about what can happen when the state helps someone i.e. under a socialistic type of system.
My country's universities are full of rich, upper/middle class kids now, the difference is rather disgusting.
I know you didn't call me lazy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I have heard it (especially as a student) from a lot cretins though. (conservatives and liberals) Some people have no idea what goes on in a poor person's life. Some breaks NEVER come to people in poor areas and there are a lot of talented people there. A capitalist system is shooting itself in the foot because it ignores 4/5 of its population and the talent therein. When a person is not given an incentive to work of course they will become lazy. 'Community programs' do not pay well.
There are well supported educational programs in most european countries. A lot of these countries also have left-wing governments. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
