That's the trouble though, nobody ever voluntarily gives money back to the system. The educational system point is a litle OT but is was a general point about what can happen when the state helps someone i.e. under a socialistic type of system.
My country's universities are full of rich, upper/middle class kids now, the difference is rather disgusting.
I know you didn't call me lazy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I have heard it (especially as a student) from a lot cretins though. (conservatives and liberals) Some people have no idea what goes on in a poor person's life. Some breaks NEVER come to people in poor areas and there are a lot of talented people there. A capitalist system is shooting itself in the foot because it ignores 4/5 of its population and the talent therein. When a person is not given an incentive to work of course they will become lazy. 'Community programs' do not pay well.
There are well supported educational programs in most european countries. A lot of these countries also have left-wing governments. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
that is the trouble, that a lot of people don't give back to the community when they make it. but part of being free and living in a free world is having that option.
there are some people who make it big and acquire mass amounts of money that do give back to the community.
darrel green, a cornerback for the washington redskins for twenty years has his own foundation that is designed to help underpivilged people.
durwood merril, a baseball umpire, has established his own charitable organisation which helps poor families.
then there's the boys and girls club of america which gets alot of help from various other athletes and famous people.
i have a very big idea what goes on in a poor person's life. that's how i was raised, and right now as an adult i am just barely able to stay above the poverty line.