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well, i finished the demo as a fighter, piece a cake. but a mage needs to rest to use his spells, and like is it trough the whole game that you can only cast a spell once, rest, cast the spell, rest, ... or can you, as you get stronger, cast the spell multiple times?

EDIT: about buying it: i just spend my money on LotR: BfME 2 so...

It's the D&D system: you rise in level, you get extra slots for spells of different levels.

They've acually introduced a new caster class into the D&D system, one who is not useless in early game (when the normal caster doesn't have that many spells): the Warlock! If I've got it right he can cast his spells as many times as he want, but he can only get a few spells all to all. This class will be in NWN2 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> (together with all the old classes, all the kits ever used, all the races ever used, all the subraces ever used, all the prestigeclasses ever used and some new prestigeclasses. To that we will have backgrounds, which (for those of you who hasn't played Arcanum or Vampire with the module) gives some kind of bonus and some kind of drawback (like "Ritch parents", you had ritch parents, so you start with extra gold, but due to being spoiled as a child you have extra low willpower). The charactersystem in NWN2 will be a real treat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />).

Übereil

Sounds a bit like the already existing Sorcerer class.

hmm just my 2 bits worth (yeah I am a NWN fan, so I am biased)
NWN prologue = Academy
Chptr 1 = neverwinter city and its quadrants
which includes quests like saving the animals from the evil zoo keeper, presuming you role-played and didn't hack & slash your way thru it with out talking to ppl, also there are some quests that will involve your henchmen, yes you can swap them! and thru this you can get some nice items .... presuming you role-played and talked to your henchmen and didn't use them as a meat shield ..... IOW if you WANT to role-play in nwn you can, but you must do the talking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

hmm at last count I think there were up to a minimum of 50 quests available thru out the game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Mea, how did you save the animals? You did it by killing the evil guards. How did you do your Henchmen's quests? You did it by killing whatever got in the way of them. You had to talk to get the quests, but the quests themselves where all about killing. And that it what made NWN1 so boring. The sollution to everything was killing (had this problem with some BG2 quests too, like the fallen paladin).

Übereil

sure you look at it that way it is all about killing, if you have to solve a puzzle, but to get to the puzzle you have to kill the monsters then yes your philosophy is right <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> but we are in a D&D Game and half the fun is killing Bad Evil things (presuming you are of my alignment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) and then there are the brain scratchers where you think Dang! how am I gonna get past this or should I kill it maybe I can talk my way past it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> IOW it all depends on how you approach the game, if you really want to you can finish NWN OC in 1 night, simply by ignoring everything that happens and follow the main quest to rid the evil from NWN <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don't enjoy fighting that much. Sure, it can be fun to alternate all the talking with some hacking and slashing once in a while, but when pretty much everything you do is hacking and slashing then it gets kind of boring. Arcanum varied good. So did Fallout 1&2. And Ps:T really pulled that off.
Needless to say I don't think NWN did though, right? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I don't remember those "DANG! how am I gonna get past this?" moments from NWN1. I just remember the fighting getting there. I might be misleading, since I don't recall that much from this game. But there wasn't that much talking really. As an example we can take the Brothel of Slating Intellectual Lusts from Ps:T. It was one house, and there was like nine quests in there. And IIRC not a single one of them involved fighting (possiblly one or two quests did involve fighting, but that was just one fight per quests and there were five or six steps per quest)! I don't really recall one single bigger NWN quest (from the first act and from the early second act) that didn't involve fighting.

Übereil

never did have a chance to get a hold of PS: T
dnd online had some puzzles
the problem with NWN is that their single player campaign was so straight forward
as soon as the game started you knew who the real enemy was just by listening to the conversations, then myself and some of my friends got pissed because it turned out we were right, the enemy was who we thought it was

the campaign was horrible imho!!
however online play is very good, you have to go to their websites for certain material files to place into your directory for some of the more interesting servers, one of the first server i played before things got slow was an lotr modd server

[color:"black"] I don't really recall one single bigger NWN quest (from the first act and from the early second act) that didn't involve fighting.
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so you are saying that because you haven't finished the game, you don't like it due to the missing RP element, personally Ube, I think you have a problem with the word (abbreviation whatever) Role Playing, it does not just mean puzzles quizzes and questions, it means you play a role like an actor and some plays are written different then others, never the less "Millions of ppl can't be wrong about NWN, LOL you don't believe me check the member count on Bioware or the NWVault for that matter, and lets not mention all the free modules available on the Vault, which range from hack & Slash to Puzzles to strategy, drat Porn even <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Now this is my last word about this, NWN is a GREAT game, and I am sure you will answer this but hey don't get upset if I don't reply ok <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Millions of pepole voted for Adolf Hitler, millions of pepole play WoW.

I like neither Adolf Hitler nor WoW. And I didn't like NWN1. The fighting in NWN1 wasn't that funny (IMO, but I didn't like Guildwars either because of this, and a lot of pepole like Guild Wars. Wait, doesn't this mean I'm wrong? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />), and IMO there was allso too much of it.

But as Barta (wasn't it?) said, you can't argue about taste.

Übereil

Yeah, that's sort of a given.

Are we talking about Divine Divinity here?

I think it's more like unlimited spells per day, but you may only learn up to three spells per spell level. So you get your Fireball and your Cone of Cold and maybe Stoneskin if you're lucky. Mind you, he could make great use of Metamagic Feats.

Warlock sounds more like the socrerer in Diablo 2 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />.

But as you say, he won't get that many spells. But if you go for those "usefull in all situations" spells (dispell?) and don't only get dmgspells you'll have a pretty decent caster. And if it is like with the sorcerer in NWN1 (where you could change what spells you have every level up) it's great. When you don't need one spell because you'll get a simillar but better spell (cone of cold=>greater cone of cold), you can change the old spell to something that will be more usefull (because if you have greater cone of cold and can cast it as much as you like, why cast the old cone of cold?).

All to all, it's a new class with different advantages and drawbacks, which will probablly become really powerfull if you plan him right (hehe if he can get lvl 10 spells he can spam weird or whail of the banshee <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />).

Übereil

NWN seriously sucks -.-

How constructive.

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