Elliot Kane
[color:"orange"]This particular petition will do no good because it's aiming at the wrong target.[/color]

The industry as a whole, as it is currently being run, is the target. The people at the top making most of the money while turning a blind eye to the cruelty are just as much a part of the problem as the dog owners and breeders.

The petition organizers may have done better to just target the abuse, though, and trust that eventual criminal charges from increased law enforcement would grow to include some of the management that is complicit in the abuse. You usually don't get to the top of the food chain that way, though (which may be why they are targeting the industry as a whole).


Since we both agree a ban is unlikely to ever happen, I fail to see why we are even debating this.

Whether the organizers of the petition want to ban the races regardless of any attempts to clean up the industry, or are reasonable and just want to end them as they are currently being run, is pretty much irrelevant until such reforms take place. Right now the petition is trying to draw attention to the abuse of greyhounds and refute the industry claims that cases showing up in the media are isolated incidents. The petition will be meaningless if reasonable sanctions are put in place by the racing industry, and they make an effort to prevent cruelty to the dogs.

Therefor, IMNSHO it is pointless to get hung up on the word 'ban' and debate whether the system currently in place should be attacked in addition to those individuals who are directly responsible for the animal abuse.



Janggut;
[color:"orange"]however Raze's rationale of reducing the availability of the races to the public is also a good start.[/color]

My point was not that they should go underground, but that if they did (which they won't) it would dramatically reduce the money involved, and therefor the extent of the cruelty towards greyhounds.