Well this is interesting. I've done some more exploring and i think I'm going to have to do a whole @$$load of backtracking. I'm so exited.

I went to Verdistas to explore a bit. Went around the outer edge of the entire town so i knew what i was working with. Then started to hit a few spots. Glanced around the Ducal Inn a bit. Also stopped by the guard house, and the Merchant's Guild. When i spoke to the guy that wants to kill Maria, i remembered that i had missed some quests back in the poor area of town. I had gotten around this far on my first play through but I hadn't been to Verdistas before. This was before i completely restarted on the new pc. Started it before on my extremely outdated pos.

Well anyway, i went back and did the rest of the small quests that i knew of or found. Went back and looked around Verdistas a bit. Came across George's murderer, the Vampire. Weird name that makes me think of Tutankhamen, Tutamun i think? Anyway. I don't know if this bug happened then or around then or what. I have a save right outside the wine merchant's house. Well anyway, i realized that most of the citizens on that side of town, walk around very quickly and randomly, then will at times suddenly sit down in a chair that flies out of their @$$ apparently, take a drink from a mug then go back to walking around, chair disappears again. Also when i go into the wine cellar and go to the vampire, the map does not reveal at all. There is a small sliver one way and another, but pretty much the entire map down there does not reveal at all.

I wish i could think a little more clearly about things i may have done there that could have caused a bug. But i did so much running around and exploring that i just did a little too much to think of one or two things i may have done. I would assume i must have done something funny inside of the Ducal Inn as they keep sitting down and drinking like they're in a tavern or something. The only two things i can think of at the moment are that i got caught by the guard snooping around once, and he kicked me outside. Then the other, that i think must have done it, is i talked to these two pervs.. well this one perv and his apparently retarded possibly also pervi friend, and i was standing in the doorway when they went to go to the bar. Well somehow the retarded one gets right by me but the other just goes nuts and runs into me about 20 times. It was kind of like watching a fly try to fly through a glass window. He just turned around in the same path umpteen times and ran into me before i finally clicked on him again to see what other conversation i could get from him, then finally was able to move so he could get by.

If nothing else i suppose i am going to have to go all the way back to the last save i have just outside Elrath's house before i turned him in. I think i did quite a bit of looking around, map opening, footwork and map noting. But i guess i know a bit more what to expect and can slow down this time if i have to redo going to Verdistas again. I suppose i was a bit excited at all the options and possibilities and just ran around like crazy. You'd think I'd learn at some point.
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