I can see both points being debated here. i put in over 150 very enjoyable hours into Oblivion without a guide and didnt miss it but i do like to have a tool like a game guide to help me in some of these ginormas r.p.g's that are out now also. it to me just enriches the overall experience without taking away anything from the games themselves. however there are people who fail to really enjoy a game because they are to busy looking in a guide to find out what it says they should do next rather than just trying to figure out on their own what they should do next witch to me seems to be the purpose of these next generation games
