I need to ammend/change some things I said,
1. Allens brew, on one of my restarts, I didn't take the brew and did win, didn't realize it was still in my consumables till later
2. I thought that I was playing the game on normal dificulty, it is on easy, probably one of my restarts where I went farther back to lvl up some more
3. have been trying to win in the Hall of Echoes for the second day, make it to Laiken and Razakel, getting killed there, 7 opponents, and a holstered weapon, really bad, plus you stop to fire your weapon, but I think that the key is taking out the 5 Memory eaters first, no matter where you are you are next to 2 all of the time and they pummel you
4. if I am having this much trouble now, then I doubt that it is possible to beat the Divine in Ygerna's memory at less than lvl 30