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#422261 06/10/10 10:41 PM
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ok all old gamer here that just got this game 3 mos ago. ive ran into several major snags and have learned the hard way big time. ive restarted with 3 profiles and have now ran into my last straw with this game in one area. dont get me wrong i love this game but the snags are really starting to tick me off!!! the game book doesnt tell you jack nothin nadda!!! ive racked my brain on this game and im about to explode!!! we shouldnt need to get online to find any answers because thats how i grew up on games figuring them out all by yourself but here i am stooping to this level of asking how does one beat the guys from beheading that gal in the hall of echoes??? do u need to be a certain level??? do u need specific potions??? im literally stuck...can anybody help me out??? thanx

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The lowest level I've seen reported for completing the game is 28, but even at level 30 or 31 the final fight would be quite challenging. There are various suggestions in the topics below.

I need help with a battle (Spoilers) Ygerna's memory

help im stuck in hall of echoes


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greetings and thanx will do and ill try to get back w/ya smile

i refuse to start this game all over again omg!!! ive restarted 3 times so far lmao and i dont think im sane anymore lol. im at level 33 now within there and every time i jump or move fast those guys own me no matter what i do lol...ive tried over 50 times with different tactics so far. i did save this same profile back when i was at level 30 and i might need to go back.....arg lol.

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Do you have a save before entering the Hall of Echoes (other than the one 3 levels back)? You may be able to upgrade your enchantments, add charms, possibly adjust your skills, etc, even if there isn't anything left to do in order to get another level. From the dragon sections of the hall you can return to the battle tower, but not leave there to go anywhere else (which may be good enough).

If you do end up reverting to your level 30 save (it shouldn't be impossible on level 33, though), there are a couple places where you can get opponents to spawn, if you have not finished off those sections yet (how to reach level 40+).


FWIW, the upcoming patch (expected around the release of FoV/DKS) is going to adjust the level dependence of combat.

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hi ive been playing for a while now and for the past few days ive been trying 2 beat the three abominations in likens study. i can get rid of the two lvl 17s but then i get the lvl. 18 almost completly down and then all of thesudden he drops some kindof spell that takes out all of my hit pts. i have nothing else to complete as of this far to lvl up. what do i do? also i cant find the first piece of the quest to get the dragon stone so i can turn into a dragon. im a lvl 17 and i need help badly.

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Do you have any temporary boost potions? If you're getting close to taking out the level 18 abomination, a small boost to one or more stats may be enough to finish it off quickly enough.

Have you summoned your creature for support, or at least a distraction?

Have you finished off everything else on the island?
You can return to Broken Valley and then take the path to the far south west into the fjords; I did that after Maxos temple, before going to Sentinel Island. The first couple opponents got me to level 16, clearing down the mountain path brought me to 17, and swimming over to another couple beaches almost brought me to level 18. I had to take out a few level 21 imps to get to level 18, which was much easier after I switched my creature from a warrior head to a ranger head (and once I found a mage head I switched to that).

You need to get the ring from Laiken's Study in order to continue the main plot quests and get the dragon stone (after taking over the battle tower). You'll want to finish off pretty much everything in Broken Valley and on Sentinel Island before doing that, though (there is a warning at the 'point of no return'), as most locations and NPCs will no longer be accessible. You can wait to rescue the miners in the quarry tower in Broken Valley, and must wait to get the book from the boat in a tree on Sentinel Island (though you may want to read the book yourself, rather than complete the quest).


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thanks 4 that! i got it. now i have another problem. i cant get through the door on the fourth floor of my battle tower. i assume that that is where i will face Laiken. i have found a crap load of keys but none of them is the one to the door. i also have aquired 2 quest talismans (east and west) and dont know where exactly 2 use them.

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On the second floor you need to read the mute goblin Erlking's mind, and then read the book he was thinking of in his bookcase (on the right as you enter the room, at the far back); you may need to scroll down to see the end of the list. There is a key you need after that on an abomination master on the third floor, which you may have already. Finish everything else (with a couple exceptions, described above) before entering the summoning chamber on the fourth floor.


In the derelict tunnels, you can use the 3 Talismans (there is also a talisman of the south) in the correct order at a statue in the middle of that tunnel (a well lit statue, with a plant or something on either side, in the room at the top of the stairs down to the southern branch), to give you the Talisman of the North (which has +2 Wisdom, 3 enchantment slots and a couple other random bonuses). If you want it, this must be done before taking over the battle tower.

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thanks dude im n your debt. now where is the talisman of the south?

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The talisman of the south is in a chest in a tree, in a goblin camp. see

Help require... The 3 Talisman

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thanks. now if i go ahead and do the battle tower will i still b able 2 go back and finish my dragon quest?

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Completing the battle tower will lead directly into finishing the quest to become a full dragon knight. After that you can finish the quarry tower in Broken Valley and the boat in a tree in Sentinel Island, but all other quests and most places / NPCs in those locations will become unavailable.

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Kool thanks. i am trying to gather the seeds and stuff from the three trees to feed the pillars n the waterfall cave and i have found that i cannot fly or swim past the imp area in the orbis fyords to get 2 the other seeds from the other 2 trees. its like there is a wall or sumthing there but i can see the other imps. is this a glitch or is there something else i have 2 do b4 i can pass?

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If you fly out over the water from the start of the fjords, you should see a bunker high in the mountains behind some anti-dragon shields and defenses. That is where you need to get to lower the barrier and disable the shields (there are a couple traders in there, as well, after they surrender).
You can either use a teleporter to get up there (the Camp Sentinel View teleporter, on the west side of the island in the middle of the channel, on a ledge directly above the left Nest Tower as you approach the cliff, will bring you to Camp Eagle's Nest, where you can access the bunker) or it is also possible to fly above the anti-dragon shield and drop down in human form, if you find the right spot.

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thanks again. i got it now. what do i do with the three books (blue, red, and black)n the tunnel in the oribus fyords?

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You get downstairs in that cave, there should be places to put those books on (you'll need to find the right combination).

In this game, most special items are used in the same place they are found.

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If you took the books already, did you pay attention to the candle holders beside each?
Left to right, the books should be placed in the order dark/blue/red, so they get put on the pedestal with the candle holder having the same number of candles as the original location.

BTW, where you pick the books up there are 2 malachite veins.

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im stuck in Karas maze how do i get out?

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Keara's statue names

All the teleporters in there lead back to the one near the entrance (that one brings you back to whichever of the others was used last, or itself if you have not used any).

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Why r these statues in kearas fortress Hq not giving me any clues?

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