Originally Posted by Mromson
Originally Posted by ForceInfinity
Originally Posted by Mromson
Originally Posted by Paris
I purchased my game from GG. After installing I had to activate on line which took all of 30 seconds, and that was that. No cd in the drive, no nags, no nasty piece of malware, easy as pie. cool


Except for the fact that you can only install the game five times, before being forced to ask the merciful publisher to reset said limit. It's insulting.


That is not entirely correct. It's restricted to 5 activations, not installs. You only burn an install when you install onto a brand new hardware configuration. It means if you dump windows, reformat, reinstall, and go to reactivate, you don't burn an extra activation. Unless you're the type to install on 5 different machines, or you change hardware dramatically, you shouldn't ever run into a problem.

Also if you take the time to uninstall your app, you return the activation, and beyond all that, there's I think a mass deactivation tool you can run to take care of all that.

-shrugs- I hate DRM as much if not more than most people and have balked at buying games that use it on principle, but it's nowhere near as onerous as people make it out to be either.


That's not how it works. Simply changing the MOBO will invalidate the install and copying the install folder will do jack all shit if the proper SecuROM files aren't present.

I have three PC's: Two stationary ones at two different locations and a gaming laptop for when I travel. I upgrade my Stationary PC's every two years or so (unless they crash for whatever reason) - so for all intents and purposes, I could easily lose the right to use the game I purchased after less than five years. This is totally unacceptable.

What this basically tells me is that it's simpler to just pirate the game - that way I won't have to worry about install limits or any of that bullshit, because hey! The game was available illegally before the bloody release date.

Do people not care for consumer rights anymore?


Well the MOBO change is a fairly dramatic hardware change (as I mentioned above as a scenario that causes a problem), and if you uninstall the game first and reinstall later you dont have the problem.

I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish getting upset at me. I'm not your enemy here. The DRM is. The only point I was attempting to make is that I find DRM to be repugnant on principle, however for people like myself who has just the single machine and a laptop, I've not ran into too many hitches other than I have to go through the trouble of uninstalling the game first prior to conducting the upgrade.

As to pirating, all I can say is knock yourself out. I'm too paranoid about the whole trojan/botnet/rootkit junk out there to where I wouldn't trust any firewall, virus-scanner, etc to keep my machine safe to even think of downloading it. If you have more faith in your system security, then by all means knock yourself out. For my perspective, to quote Wargames, the only winning move is not to play.

Last edited by ForceInfinity; 06/11/10 06:16 PM.