Larian Studios Forums Divinity II The Dragon Knight Saga / Flames of Vengeance (English) Divinity II - The Dragon Knight Saga No Elves? Dwarves? And other questions.

No lies, please. We were talking about:

and you said your speculations is "make more sense" and now "became a argument". Since when and how? Did i miss sumtin in teh convo? Why my/other ppl speculations not an argument then? Why only yours? it's simple question and requires simple answer - since when your speculation became an argument.
I bet you have an answer for that :P

Axel
I know, Lar said even they accept the fact that D2 plot has many issues. Too bad fanbois don't listen even to the devs >_>

Regarding DA2 - no, it sucks. It will suck. Why bother making good RPG, if you can simplify it for casual cattle and get x100 times bigger sales on consoles? What, PC gamers? C'mon, we all know there is no such thing as "pc gaming" anymore.

The only thing I don't understand is why Larian uses such cheap tactic as well. I mean - really, why? You're independent studio, 90% of your budget is a TV media and kid games/programs/other multimedia stuff/etc. You HAVE a freedom to do things "right". Why not use it? May be I don't understand something? I never had such experience, so, I really would like to know.

So how about an expansion pack to add in all the things that were cut while we wait for DD3?

I hate elves and Dwarves.

Elf = sissy that wear tights
Dwarves = ugly midget that act tough.

YUCK!

glad they're not in the game : )

If so i want your reasons on why...

I think you are in a minority there

I was wondering the same thing. Not exactly a minor project, but if much of the work is already done, perhaps it could yet be brought to life.

Ever the optimist.

You and me both.

Kein
No lies, please.

That was not a lie. In fact, the statement in question should be blatantly obvious to anyone who knows (or cares to read) the definition of the word 'argument'.


Why my/other ppl speculations not an argument then?

The process of explaining / defending / advocating a speculation is an argument, as I explained earlier. Really, see above.


Why only yours?

I never claimed I was the only person who could argue a point.

Write a sentence saying the Black Ring started winning the war and that was why the dragons left, or that even if they left due to the formation of the slayers, the Black Ring were ultimately responsible, and that would be an argument for your speculation.


it's simple question and requires simple answer

The simple answer has already been given.

Since there is nothing left of the original debate (a somewhat grandiose term for what happened), and if you honestly don't understand my previous post I have no idea how to make it clear, I'm done with it.

(Reviving in name of Chaos and Flame)

Great to see that my thread has had nice discussion!

But, even Larian admitted it's a bit of a plothole. But since the only thing I've met about Elves was a description on an item (or two?), that made no sense (Elves died long ago? Uh, that's impossible, unless you call long ago a few years/months long ago, which is when Damian came back?), then it would be easy to just remove the offending description in a patch and give us back Elves in Divinity 3. Because, nobody said a word about it, even Zandalor (knowing the wizard from Divine Divinity, if Elves/Dwarves truly died altogether, he'd make a comment like "Hopefully Dragon Knights won't share the fate of poor Elves, extinct and slowly forgotten."), there's no book like "History of extinct races" with Elves in part XXX, or something.

Darn, it would be great if we had to make the council again in D3, or if we were a part of it. Hopefully we won't play Dragon Knight again - that would be horrible. It was great to meet the Divine One and see how much he has changed. It would be great if when meeting Dragon Knight, he'd keep the sarcasm and sharp responses he has shown not once in Divinity 2, but paired with wisdom (unless Divinity 3 action wasn't that far from Divinity 2, then he can remain as he is).

And it would be great if they made romance options. There was one in Divine Divinity (and even an option of gay sex in brothel! Great, more choices = better rpg) and currently all damn rpg's have one, usually for all sexes and sexualities (Shepard is an exception, his homo romances were cut off the game ).

I think it was 50 years between the end of BD and start of D2:ED/DKS.

There was a Divinity 3 discussion topic awhile ago where I suggested a re-gathering of the council, as well.
FoV was described as the conclusion of the Dragon Knight's story, so we will not be continuing with that character. I wouldn't mind the dragon form, or something like it, staying in for the next game, though.

Personally I don't see much point to romances in RPGs, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have that option.


As for another add-on for the game... I'd love to see all the stuff that got cut put back in, but since Larian has already started working on Divinity 3 I doubt that will happen.
Nobody but the German publisher put out a DVD release of FoV, and North American publishers were initially reluctant to take on FoV and DKS until sales results came in from the rest of the world. If enough game resources could be used from DKS to keep an add-on under MS' DLC size limit, then I guess we could hold out faint hope of another add-on, but I don't think publishers will be more interested in the prospect of a second add-on than they were with the first, unfortunately.

GabeN:
Hehehe... only if they would made it fit in action rpg style of this game( no kissy-kissy candy thing) then it's okay with me.

And I personaly hope we will play as dragon knight, but some new one, not hero from div 2.


and there are many question not answered in DKS with I hope will be answered in another expansion/DIV 3

And remember Larian Studios this:

If FoV really was the conclusion od DK story, then we won't have another addon.

Romances are nice in RPG's. Especially with Elves.

I'd love if Divinity 3 made us play as a... Dragon Elf. No, not that kind of Dragon Elves - how about Elven Dragon Knight? That could be awesome if done right. Yes, we need pointy-ears changing into dragons. Definitely.



It made little sense tbh, because... Berengar is a light wizard, isn't he? Why did he randomly turn her into stone? His explanation made little sense, even for a "rhyming wacko".

...But then it kind of fits his character. He also attacked us instead of negotiate, until he had no chance of victory in a fight. Yeah, it's believable, I guess.

Besides, you could turn back people from being vegetables, why not the same from stone?

I think that her voice actor was unavailable, so they cut her off the game. (that's the only explanation I can think of for COMPLETELY cutting her off, not even 1 new line with her. The same happened with Bill from L4D in Sacrifice campaign - they didn't have his Voice Actor, they killed him off) I didn't miss her. In fact, she got what she deserved.

What!? Noo... maybe.... still I hope she will be back somewhere in the future. Simple stone-to-flesh spell/scroll/potion will do the trick.



Oh yes, especially with very friendly female elves.

As I remember, Berengar was a witcher
I think you meant to say Bellegar

Unfriendly ones too.

I honestly hope they won't add any bullshit like "elves" and "dwarfs", they might as well make the main character Frodo.

What about orcs and lizardmen? I want Kroxy back!

Good old Kroxy, it would be nice to meet him again.

But I doubt that livespan of orcs is that long.

Not to mention warlike nature of orcs.

Not to mention warlike nature of orcs.

Ah, but Kroxy is a priest, don't you know.

Ah.. it was some time ago that I player Divine Divinity, good memories.

Kroxy doesn't die. He gives and feigns death, ahah.