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Hello all, got a question about a possible error.
In Ego Draconis, i remember the Amulet of the North you get in the Mines had various stats- like +1 to Spirit/Intelligence, +2 to Indominable Will/Conditioned Body and +2 Wisdom (or something to that effect).
In Dragon Knight Saga, the Amulet of the North had an... inconsistency- namely two incidence of Wisdom- +1 Spirit, +2 Indominable Will, +2 Wisdom and +1 Wisdom.

Not that i'm arguing about a +3 to Wisdom, just wondering if it was an error.

That is how it is listed in Lancet's Dragon Knight Saga FAQ/Guide, and what I got. Presumably the skill bonuses on equipment are limited to two levels, and it was easier to add an extra skill entry than to make an exception in order to improve the Wisdom bonus from the Talisman of the North.


Welcome to the forum.

Skill Bonuses on equipment can be +3, on Epic- and (assumably) Unique-rarity gear.

But the way things work on DKS is this: Each "unique" item (and by that, I mean items with gold names and no rarity listing, NOT Unique-rarity items) still has a rarity value, it's just hidden. Most unique stuff has a skill bonus in addition to their normal rarity.

For example, the Adventurer's Band ring in Broken Valley Village (sold by Lamotte) has +2 to Critical Chance and +1 to Regenerate skill. The Regenerate bonus is the true "extra" on the ring. Otherwise, it is basically a Rare-rarity ring: one (small) stat bonus. Because rings have five different bonuses, it is one of them (crit chance, HP/Mana regen, and direct HP/Mana bonuses are all to be found on any ring).

Because Pendants fall under Jewelry w/ skill bonuses (like earrings and bracelets), the Talisman of the North has its special skill bonus (Wisdom +2), which is unchanged from ED. Then, it has two additional effects, a normal stat bonus, and a normal skill bonus, like other amulets. But since the item is entirely pre-determined (its stats aren't randomized), they put the extra +1 to Wisdom in the "skill bonus" slot on the item. So Raze is partially correct in that it's likely a programming issue, but not quite correct in the specifics, at least from my observations.


Note: Interestingly, many unique amulets/bracelets/earrings have a stat bonus and a +1 skill bonus, when normally this is impossible: rare and magical items, the only ones that have +1 bonuses, never have another stat on them, and heroic, which DO have a skill bonus and a stat bonus, only have +2 bonuses. These are the only items with such discrepancies, though, and all other unique items follow the rules properly for the most part, except one Warhammer which has Sword/Axe bonuses (Melee stats, instead of Magic, like Warhammers usually have).

not what i asked.
i kinda figured out the charm/enhancement ratio for Legendary/Heroic/.../unique gear.

What i was attempting to point out- and read this part carefully- was the DKS version of Amulet of the North (a speciallized/unique piece of gear) has the same passive skill on it twice. in this case, a seperate +2 Wisdom boost and a +1 Wisdom boost.

i was asking if that discrepency was err'd in the way that one of those stat boosts was supposed to be of a different type, or if it was meant as a +3 Wisdom boost that wasn't finalized.

>edit< even Lancet's Ego Dragonis FAQ shows only one incident of Wisdom on original Talisman of the North.

ED/TotN +2 Wisdom compared to DKS/TotN +2 Wisdom & +1 Wisdom

Well, I explained exactly why it happens. It's just duer to how its programmed. They needed a skill boost on the amulet, and must have thought "hey, let's make it give +3 to Wisdom," resulting in them making the "skill bonus" slot on the item another Wisdom.

A lot of unique jewelry that formerly had a skill bonus now have two, such as Jagon's Necklace (the Mindread +1 is due to the same effect), as is the Fireball bonus on Lovis' Amulet.

So my answer was basically that no, they intended the amulet to have +3 Wisdom total, but added the extra point of wisdom in due to what I assume are the constraints of the item system and how the game keeps track of items.

Hey,

I'm playing the DKS (Xbox) and have another kind of Amulet of the North !

By me this amulet has:
+ 2 to Wisdom
AND
+ 1 to hide in Shadows !!

So the + 1 to Wisdom is a random bonus skill

The other boost on this Amulet I think are + 5 to Magic Damage and + 2 (or 3) to Ind. Will
(Plus have 3 empty Enchantment slots)

That doesn't sound right, unless the bonuses are rerolled when you start a new game. Are you positive this is the Talisman of the North (not Amulet), and you got it from those tunnels where Hallorn is?

EDIT: Actually, his stats differ from mine, too. What about other unique equipment in my DKS guide? Does it all match up to what you have, or are some (or all) stats different?

Wait, what level is your amulet? As in, the level required to use it. And is it the same as your character level at the time of acquisition?

O, naturally, I make the mistake, it's of course the "Talisman of the North".
Yes, I'm very sure it is this Talisman I become in the Tunnels by using the 3 other Talismans (West, East, South) ! I'm sure because I used this Talisman just for the Hide in Shadows Skill in the battle against Amdusias !

Maybe, but I don't know (maybe someone of the devs of Larian can affrim this?), it is because I start a whole new game AFTER the patch ? ( patch : including the nightmare mode & more things I believe! I'm playing the European Xbox version, but I suppose this is the exact SAME one as the one coming out the 12th of april in America ?) .

But also to say I go for that Talisman of the North when my hero was already L 13 or L 14 ! Maybe the Talisman is also in some way "based on the hero's current level" like many chests are level based (+ have their own level) Macbeth of the Larian Team write down earlier somewhere on this forum .
Edit: I will also check the Level of my Talisman
(edited after reading Lancet's edit )

I'm not totally sure about the other boosts on the Talisman, I will check this and let you know Lancet.
Later on I will check also your Guide (but I'm only L 19 and does not wish to read possible "spoilers") to see or I met other kind of boosts on gear ...

If you stick to just the unique equipment (section 2), there shouldn't be any spoilers except for stuff added in DKS (which at the moment is just the odd item here and there). Not really anything in there that wasn't in ED. The equipment sets are the biggest possible spoiler (if you'd wanna find them yourself), but they're in section 3.

Hi,

now I have the right data about my Talisman of the North (Level 5) :
Skills: Wisdom + 2 & Hide in Shadows + 1
Other stats : Indom. Will : + 1 & Magic Dam + 2 & 3 empty Enchantm. Slots

I'm thinking:
could it be the 2 stats (I.W. & Magic Dam) depends on the current hero's "stats" ?
So I know my Intelligence was for sure higher than my Strength when I take the Talisman with me. So maybe the dev's of Larian make it SO that in "most of the situations" the items your hero(ïn) find come his/her way more ADAPTED to his/her build ?