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I was level 20 when I beat Laiken and got my Battle Tower, after arriving in Orobas Fjords I started exploring since I wasn't really clear on what I should be doing. I found the Maxos Scroll in my bedroom but no new quest updated from receiving it so I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing.

I started exploring the old Broken Valley area and killed all the towers, then flew into what I later found out was Stone's Flying Fortress and killed everything there including Stone and the other named NPCs. Then I flew out and went into a mine and just realized I killed Ba'al who seems rather important. Also I'm now level 30 just from killing all these things.

I'm just wondering if I should not be doing all these things because I could be breaking the plot, what exactly are you supposed to be doing after getting your Battle Tower? I didn't see any new main quest open up just the random quests from my platform operators.

Have I screwed up the plot by killing Ba'al before even knowing who he is?

Thanks.

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You may not get much experience from lower level opponents in the fjords now, but you will not have any problems killing quest related opponents early (they should still drop the relevant quest item, etc). Specifically for Ba'al, you already have the related quest (one of fours parts to the 'Hall of Echoes Bound' quest), received when you defeated Amdusias and picked up the Book of the Dragon. The Note from Maxos is required for one of the other sub quests, and will do something when read in the appropriate spot (which a third sub quests will reveal).

Did you mindread Ba'al?
That gives 2 skill points.

Did you clear down the mountain path in the fjords, as well as the beaches and depleted ore mine, enter the bunker and lower the barrier and anti-dragon shields at the start of the fjords, continue down the path past the mine, which branches down to the harbour and up to High Hall (both of which have additional quests)? There are also several caves, a castle and other things to find in the fjords if you fly around exploring.

For the flying fortresses, they increase in difficulty as you proceed into the fjords, so from easiest to hardest: Stone, Raze, Broken Valley, Keara and then Kali.

The order you explore doesn't matter too much, except if you do difficult areas first you will level faster and may find easier areas too easy.


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Thanks, good to know I didn't ruin anything other than making the stuff I skipped a bit too easy. I literally didn't do anything at all in Orobas Fjords, I went through the waypoint shrine into Fjords then straight back into Broken Valley.

I'll go back and explore there more and try to pretend I'm afraid of the level 21 things. Also yes I did mindread Ba'al. I have like 12 unspent talent points because I can't decide what to get and haven't gone back to my tower yet to uncap the ones I think I need.

Is there a way to respec your stat points the way your skill trainer lets you respec your skill points?

Thanks again for the reply.

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No, you can not change your stat point once they are distributed. You can use charms (permanent) or select equipment with bonuses to help with certain stats, though. Potions can help if you are having a problem with a certain area or opponent (ie use an intelligence potion if you are in an spot where archers keep hitting you with Stun Arrows).

Skills are arguably more important than stats, and equipment doesn't have any stat requirements, so if you want to switch your character build, you should be able to do so without too much trouble (post details for specific advice). Playing an archer on nightmare difficulty, I stopped distributing stat points after level 15, and made it to the end of the game without too much trouble (the places I did have trouble merely needed a couple extra potions or an adjustment to my strategy).

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I put almost all of my points into strength but I find I'm doing a hit and run strategy with tougher things and feels like a ranger would be a lot more suited than a warrior for that. I didn't realize how many ranged enemies there would be in the game, it's a bit annoying charging down each one when I could just blast em back.

I have really great sword and mace though and no good bow so I'll have to wait before I try changing it up.

Thanks for the tips though, I couldn't find any friends who had played this before to bounce ideas off of.

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Have you tried Rush Attack with your warrior? I used level 1 of that skill with my warrior in the original release of D2:ED, and it made chasing down ranged opponents much easier (though you can occasionally jump into the middle of a group of opponents that way, if they were blocked from your original view). I used a bow to draw melee opponents to me early in the game, and sometimes in tough fights or against ranged opponents up until about the mid game, but after that only used one to break crates, etc (and of course equipping Rothman's Bow before turning in quests, for the Wisdom bonus).


After the very start of the game, the unique bows (that you can get in specific places) far outclass any random loot you are likely to get (or at least that I ever saw). The Bow of Orobas (level 28 requirement) can be bought inside the harbour building, which should hold you over until you get into the FoV section of the game.

I never tried Way of the Ranger until level 40, when I bought a bow with that skill bonus. I'm not usually a fan of temporary effect spells/potions, but in this case found the extra damage worth the upkeep (especially heading into tough fights and/or combined with Splitting Arrows).



FWIW, at the end of the Hall of Echoes I was level 37, and had 98 unused stat points (base stat values the same as they were at level 15), and 21 unused skill points.
Early in the game I boosted strength thinking I would fall back to unarmed combat at times, but as I refined my strategy that became less and less necessary, and I eventually changed the melee attack hotkey (unused for some time) to Splitting Arrows when I hit level 24 and finally put 4 or 5 points into that skill (playing another ranger I'd learn it sooner).

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equipment            with  without

hit points           942     306
mana                 639     222

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vitality              53      14
spirit                22       2
strength              21      21
dexterity             51      36
intelligence           7       7

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damage              281-425
magic damage        114-133
melee resistance      22.1    10.4
ranged resistance     38.5    16.6
magic resistance      37.2     3.7

conditioned body      21      21
heightened reflexes   74      36
indomitable will       7       7


Skills

Ranger Strength - 10
Explosive Arrows - 6+8
Splitting Arrows - 7+3 : these 3 I later maxed

Poison Arrows - 1
Stun Arrows - 1 : secondary skills

Death Blow - 1
Evade - 1
Healing - 1
Regenerate - 1 : tertiary skills

Lockpick - 5
Ranger Stealth - 5
Mana Efficiency - 6
Mindread - 15 (it was at 1 until just before heading to the Hall of Echoes, at which point I maxed it)

Before the battle tower I had a couple points in Poison and Stun Arrows, as well as equipment bonuses. Both still came in handy afterwards, but mostly just as a way to pause and select a specific target, then come out of pause attacking (a normal ranged attack doesn't unpause the game).

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Originally Posted by Ashima
I was level 20 when I beat Laiken and got my Battle Tower, after arriving in Orobas Fjords I started exploring since I wasn't really clear on what I should be doing. I found the Maxos Scroll in my bedroom but no new quest updated from receiving it so I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing.

I started exploring the old Broken Valley area and killed all the towers, then flew into what I later found out was Stone's Flying Fortress and killed everything there including Stone and the other named NPCs. Then I flew out and went into a mine and just realized I killed Ba'al who seems rather important. Also I'm now level 30 just from killing all these things.

I'm just wondering if I should not be doing all these things because I could be breaking the plot, what exactly are you supposed to be doing after getting your Battle Tower? I didn't see any new main quest open up just the random quests from my platform operators.

Have I screwed up the plot by killing Ba'al before even knowing who he is?

Thanks.




You can't screw up the plot. The game has many choices, but the plot is the same. There are only 3 major objectives in the fjords, and the fortresses are designed to be a gold mide for EXP points.


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