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Was it possible to kill the Patriarch?
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Was it possible to kill the Patriarch? Yes, it was possible, I believe with Poisonous Cloud, not sure. But he give you something (Quest/Skill) for the Main story in DD, so best not kil him before you get what you need Once I killed him by accident, but after that never again.
On 7th of february 2015 : I start a new adventure in the Divinity world of Original Sin, it's a Fantastic Freaking Fabulous Funny ... it's my All Time Favorite One !
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Did you get anything for it?
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Wow never expected such a debate. The NPC killing in the Divinity: Sword of Lies offered hardly an xp and caused more problems quest wise. Some NPCs that you kill pretty much end your game so it is best to not save when doing such things. It was more like just something fun to do. Especially casting hell spikes on the NPCs that cannot move.
Then you get the NPCs that can really kick your ass.... That's untrue. I killed everyone in Divinity and still beat the game. Some NPC's like Zandalor cannot be killed due to their importance to the plot. They are even immune to the poison cloud spell. Also killing merchants means that you can loot their entire shop. Was it possible to kill the Patriarch? Yes. I killed him in my first playthrough: http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=447344#Post447344Stupid blasphemous lizard didn't recognize my character as the deity that he was so my character taught him a lesson. Did you get anything for it? You get 30,000 EXP. Was it possible to kill the Patriarch? Yes, it was possible, I believe with Poisonous Cloud, not sure. But he give you something (Quest/Skill) for the Main story in DD, so best not kil him before you get what you need Once I killed him by accident, but after that never again. You get the Ghost Skill from him but you can level up in that skill without learning it from him anyway which makes him rather irrelevant. By the way, how can you kill him by accident? He has a large HP pool and it takes numerous casts of the poison cloud spell to kill him... Oh wait...I'm speaking to Jorom - Joram's evil twin - aren't I? When you mean "accident" you mean "on purpose" right?
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I believe I make the Patriarch angry for some reason so he start attacking me and I killed him (by accident : I didn't known he was important, but as you said, not THAT important )
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But ... but ... you need him to find the Hall of Echoes many years later! You broke the chain of events! Damian wins!
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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Level 5 Feign Death... or something.
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But ... but ... you need him to find the Hall of Echoes many years later! You broke the chain of events! Damian wins! You're right ! If it happen again, I will "Resurrect" him immediately And since the Patriarch is so important to find later on the Hall of Echoes, why the hell we can kill him (by accident or evil twist inside us) and not Zandalor who is also important in DKS ! Why ?
On 7th of february 2015 : I start a new adventure in the Divinity world of Original Sin, it's a Fantastic Freaking Fabulous Funny ... it's my All Time Favorite One !
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I don't think they had the DKS storyline in mind already in 2002.
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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MacBeth ! The official company line is that "Divinity inhabitants believe that there are an infinite amount of worlds in an infinite amount of dimensions, with each game played representing one of those dimensions"
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Why? Are humans the only ones who can resurrect themselves? (with a variety of techniques and levels of success) That's very dragonist of you...
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MacBeth ! The official company line is that "Divinity inhabitants believe that there are an infinite amount of worlds in an infinite amount of dimensions, with each game played representing one of those dimensions" ... And the Raanaar visit them ... ... This reminds me of Sir Terry Pratchett's forthcoming book entitled "The Long Earth" ...
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Oh oh I'm rusty on company policy and I'm a dragonist to boot! My head hangs in shame!
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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Hm. If it is the prequel, can I afterwards load the final savegame in the first Divinity?
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Hm. If it is the prequel, can I afterwards load the final savegame in the first Divinity? I never think this is possible, Larian is now using another "engine" for Original Sin !
On 7th of february 2015 : I start a new adventure in the Divinity world of Original Sin, it's a Fantastic Freaking Fabulous Funny ... it's my All Time Favorite One !
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And since the Patriarch is so important to find later on the Hall of Echoes, why the hell we can kill him
Because we are the Divine One. A machine (for the pigs) for ass-kicking with our divine boots. MacBeth ! The official company line is that "Divinity inhabitants believe that there are an infinite amount of worlds in an infinite amount of dimensions, with each game played representing one of those dimensions" Each walkthrough represents one dimension? Interesting, I wish we had stats. Hm. If it is the prequel, can I afterwards load the final savegame in the first Divinity? I never thing this is possible, Larian is now using another "engine" for Original Sin ! Well, someone already wants to remake DD on new engine.
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Different topic, but I didn't want to do a new one, because I think this has already been asked: will there be NPC schedules? (same complexity as Elder Scrolls games have)?
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I find it rather funny that you use TES game as an example, and not Gothic which first introduced such kind of schedules (and they are still better than in TES). As for you question - if I remember correctly, Divine Divinity had something similar to schedule concept (ie merchant didn't want to trade until morning) so yeah, I expect we can see the same in D:OS.
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You must be thinking of a different game, there were no merchants in DD that closed at night.
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I just re-played the Dragon Knight Saga quest to rescue Anne from General Luxurius, and there were no really evil options, like killing Tom or being able to take the reward for killing Tom and leaving Anne to her fate. It's good to hear that an evil playthrough seems likely.
I do hope that committing evil acts will have a consequence for party member affinity, if the AI member is set to good, but the player is doing evil things, that should decrease affinity between party members, even if they help in combat.
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