in your quote there was NO talk of a lobby or anything regarding that direction even.
If Larian implemented their own lobby system, there would be no reason the Steam version would not be able to use that, as well. The DRM free versions using a direct connection to play with a Steam version means that it uses a direct connection for online multiplayer.
btw that is not even valid without you having access to your router. which is not a given.
NAT punch-trough works in most cases without having to set up port forwarding, and the implementation has been improved.
first of all if you know that you only provide a lobby to steam users and you dont produce your own system you dont exactly just know it after launch (when at least the forum announcement was changed).
Of course not. But when the original 'no differences' post was made (which was a response to questions of version compatibility, not the actual implementation) details of the DRM free multiplayer had not been finalized.
a lobby system and to integrate steamworks isnt done in the last hour before release.
That's why Larian said pretty early on that online multiplayer would use Steamworks.
and even worded advertisements the way you would think theres a lobby even if there is none.
Do you have an example for that?
exhibit A: customers that thought so after reading up on dragon commander.
People forming a mistaken assumption, however reasonable, does not prove that the intent was to have people make that assumption.
and furthermore they even said in plain text without any room to interpret that there wouldnt be any differences between the versions!
Except obviously that only the Steam version would use Steamworks.
you could also argue that one knows now why there was no beta version made available outside of steam.
Steam has a beta system in place to make distributing and managing betas easier.
Divinity Original Sin will use Steam for the alpha/beta, and the game will not have a lobby system (it is not designed to be played with random people online).
on the contrary we (the countlessly fooled customers) posted numerous times statements by and from Larian
By 'I' I meant 'I', not Larian. Larian also was not posting marketing spin, they were just unclear about plans they hadn't finalized yet.
for every guy that comes in here or gog,etc and tries to get an explanation/excuse/substitute/help you just say the same thing over and over and say we got its wording wrong.
I have refuted accusations that Larian tried to deceive people (without blaming people for misunderstanding, as you try to characterize). People looking for help I have tried to help. If I had any kind of news or updates I would pass them along, but that will have to wait for an official response.
you dont back it up or even have facts for your statement because there are none.
I have backed up my statements. It is hard to provide 'facts' when anything here doesn't count because it can be changed and anything not here doesn't count because it is not here.
You have not provided any facts to support an accusation that Larian tried to deceive anyone.
on the contrary even everything the fooled customers and everyone that posts in here or gog points to that you are dead wrong.
And yet the vast majority of people who bought the game have not posted here or in the GOG forum about this. Could it be that some of them did, in fact, know that the GOG version would not include the Steamworks lobby but use a direct connection for online play? Could some of them have assumed there would just be a direct connection, since the multi-player for most GOG games doesn't use a server? Could it be that some people bought the game for single player, and don't care about multiplayer? Could it be that some people only intend to play against friends, so an extra step of getting an IP address is not a horrible inconvenience?
because plainly said im tired of argueing with your opinion and have just taken this long because i felt like i could at least achieve that you get up and help us instead of just kicking us customers again and again that already felt into your trap.
It is not 'kicking' customers to say that Larian didn't try to deceive anyone. If I could speed up an official response I would do so.
