Originally Posted by Stabbey
There's a slope here which looks like it might be slippery. So I'll lower someone on a rope carefully a bit at a time until we find out the spot where it gets too slippery to walk on, the point where someone is going just too far.

Kein (or anyone else pro-bikini who wants to answer), if a woman dislikes the image of how women are portrayed in a game (eg. in bikini armour), is it okay for her to complain about it? To be clear: JUST complain - not "refuse to buy", not "demand a change", not "call for a boycott or ban", just complain on the developer's forums.


The correct answer here is yes. Anyone is entitled to complain about a product if they feel so inclined.

But those are not the women people generally have a problem with. Except for people who are knobs in general and probably treat everyone they come across like crap.

The problem is when you start encountering people who insist changing it to give you more options is "not good enough", or if pointing out more options already exist and nothing needs to be changed, start getting spiteful and demanding things be removed or they'll tell everyone you're a such and such who hate women.




Originally Posted by Raze

I don't know of anyone who withdrew their pledge because of the cover art (after all, they had seen it before backing). The issue was people having the original artwork as the initial representation of the game, and then wondering if they needed to look into it any further if that was either the maturity level of the game or indicative of how woman would be portrayed.

For example, one person made a comment in the forum about liking the new design shortly after it was changed, and got some rather negative responses from the pro-bikini side. It actually made them second guess backing the game and wonder about the portrayal of women in the previous Divinity games.


And this is a prime example of the height of ridiculousness some people will go to, to see others conform to their personal beliefs. Anyone who purposefully equates the reaction of other customers to demands they view to be outlandish,[equates them] to the way the DEVELOPER portrays or treats women, aside from the patent absurdity of such a conflation, must have some kind of self-image issues floating about in their head.


And which point we arrive at the age old garbage headline of "The video game made me do it" that so many cling to, despite no real solid proof.