I kill Junius first and then Bibius and Scarlett and Roderick have conversation about killing innocents. I kill Bibius first and then Junius and Scarlett and Roderick have conversation about killing innocents. So I don't know why you aren't that's weird. I at first thought you meant the conversation about being off to see the wizard. One person said they were able to get that dialogue even though Bibius was killed. But I was unable to replicate. Don't understand what you mean by "there is no us and this isn't a pissing match." All I was doing was stating my findings in this matter. It was very similar to another one I had in a different thread. But yeah if I'm understanding you correctly now, you aren't getting the killing innocents dialogue after killing the guards in a certain order. But I got it both ways. So there's something strange going on there.