This was my next question. It seems Way of the Survival is a waste of time as a Rogue if your using daggers. Aside from your starting skills the only other ones that are good are arrows spray which you can get at lvl 1 Way of Survival if you feel like switching to bow for AOE, or the Charm attack I could see being good, however I don't see it worth the points as every stat bonus Way of the Surival gives you is for ranged / bow. Is it best just to skip this all together and go way of the warrior instead for a rogue / shadowblade if you plan on going all daggers.

The other issues I have seen with the Rogue is the sheer amount of AP it requires to get behind an enemey, sneak, then backstab is crazy, not to mention if you can't sneak because other enemies are facing you(And see you) you have to use invisibility which is another 3 AP before you can even go into sneak mode. So in total you are looking at 6AP Points to just get invisible and into sneak mode before even moving a step. Couple this with the damage you do get for a successful sneak backstab it doesn't seem worth it. Yes the damage is decent, but its not that much more then other characters typically do in a round or two. Plus in most cases it takes a full round to just get into position if not more due to variables in the battlefield(We'll get there next) Also there is many times I'm behind a monster, in sneak mode, and execute the attack but it says sneak failed/ back stab failed? Not sure why this is, but when it does happem the damage is so low.

The last problem I have seen with a rogue / shadow blade is you have to be SO careful with your party combo's as if you have a party member setting the ground on fire, electrifying it, poisoning it ect, you can't get in back-stab places without taking a bunch of damage which to a squishy class is daunting.

So what has everyone else experience been or is there a better way to build them? Some of the builds posted above sound interesting or could be more viable. One build I was thinking about was making a rogue/shadowblade and use the Air Invisibility spell / hide in shadows to always stay hidden. You could theoretically accomplish this by staying invisible until you now the next hide in shadows / invisibility is kicking in, then back-stab and pop the invisibility again.

Anyhow if anyone has any answers to my questions that would be great.

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