Thats not really true SGnri, - and the rest of you.
And you should cut out accusations and empty assertions of making the game horrible now or taking away player choices. You are practically insulting at several places in that post of yours, because you are not getting exactly what you want.
Which is pathetic.
You actually did not supply any actual evidence for any of those assertions. Except your own statements that it is so.
Just because.
The old system does not need to come back.
If you want specializations into pure classes to provide some advantages over the hybrids and mixed builds then that can be achieved by adjusting this new system, not by throwing it away.Its true when i made my warrior i wanted to learn all the warrior skills but you didnt force me to i choose to do it that way,
- nobody is forcing you now either.
BUT this lastest patch has really made the game horrible,
- no it didnt.
I would have tossed this out as another bad rpg attempt.
- thats your own personal fault. Not surprising seeing how you think that laughable excuse for an RPG from EA-ware is a good game. (although it was the last mediocre RPG they managed to produce - after which most of those devs went away, as practically all those that created BG games went away long ago)
The new system has done nothing to change this. I can start a new game right now create a fighter put 7 in intellegence 8 in strength. 1 point in pyromancy, 1 point in witchcarft, 1 point in man at arms, 1 point air, 1 point in earth. after about 1 hour of play i will have enough gold to go and buy 3 books from each of the classes i know. thats 15 skills in less than 1 hour.
- False. (it is true you can do that but the conclusion you draw from it is false)
1. You did not understand what Swen was saying. He was referring to the fact that the players had too many skills too fast - of a single class.
Not all of them or several of them.
Which caused people to think about the game as if it was a class based game - needlessly.
Because it isnt and it was never intended to be.
2. those skills you can buy are all low level skills. You are not able to buy and use any of the higher levels ones - because of specific requirements.
SO - someone who did not invest enough points into a "fighter" specific skills and stats WILL NOT BE ABLE to make as good as a fighter and as fast as you, with your specialized fighter will be able.
Comprende?
Your specialized fighter or a warrior - will be better at fighting in that specific way, then a hybrid build.
BUT IT WONT BE better then them overall. Just different. Specialized. A better fighter. NOT A BETTER wizard, rogue or ranger, not better IN EVERY WAY.
BECAUSE - there is no reason in this universe to let you be better then anyone else - just because you would like it.
Ill repeat one more time: If you specialize now into a fighter - your fighting abilities will be better then fighting abilities of a hybrid build. But you will not have a better build in general.
Comprende?
The new system tells you "NO you cant put all your points as a wizard into strength or we are going to take all your starting spells away, here put 3 of your 5"free to put them where you want"starting stat poitns into intellegence and we will give you your starting spells back"
You are saying that you would want a fighter with high strength to have as many spells and use them as well as a wizard?
- is that what youre saying?
which makes sense someone who spent 2 years training to be a warrior becomes a master warrior faster than someone who spend 7 years hopping from trying to be a mage/warrior/ranger master.
That doesnt make any sense at all. If you said that someone who spends 2 years training as a fighter - gets to be a better fighter then someone who spent 2 years training a mix of skills - then you would be correct.
your game was great because of ALLL the freedom we had to put points where you wanted and not be punished or locked out of certain talents and abilities because we CHOOSE to put all our stat points into 1 thing.
- im afraid that you misunderstand this on a fundamental level.
This was never meant to be a game where you can just choose any skills and spells as you like and therefore make completely insane builds like fighters without a point in intelligence that can use all spells as you see fit or wizards without a point invested into strength - that can use any weapon and fight as well as any fighter.
Obviously, you have been distorted into such non-logic and complete nonsense by EAware, Zenithesda and other such mass market abominations.
