I'm going to have to stop trying to debate this with you simple because you are simple picking out certain parts of what I say and disregarding other things I say because you think that they are incorrect. I've done the testing, I played through the beta 3 different times with 3 different builds before this patch, I know what builds can be achieved. I don't just say things out of the blue, iv done them in the game already.

I am currently on my 2nd play through of the new patch. Guess what? my fighter ends up with the exact same build(aside from things that have been removed and -4 stats from his str for talent)I had in the old system. the difference? it took longer to get there and I had to sit on points for levels at a time.