Originally Posted by pts
Originally Posted by aimend
Originally Posted by pts
Works exactly as it should, you get an extra bonus from Leadership -> the bonus you get from leadership is improved (by +1 to Willpower). Kinda obvious if you think about it, you are certainly not a better leader by being obedient, instead you are a better follower for other leaders.

Hey man, what you thought is wrong, see my post #495246.
Well, playing words tricks wouldn't be funny for a player, especially for players who hardly know this game. Brief and simple descriptions could always be better.


How is the difference between "from" and "by" a word trick? Maybe they should clarify the description, but i don't really see the deception.

Regarding "what you thought is wrong", don't think so: Please try the following experiment. Have a full 4-player party. During level-up, save and give a non-obedient charater one point in leadership. Every character but the leader will get a leadership bonus now, its an effect icon next to the character portrait, similar to a stance. If you hover over those effect icons, you will see the obedient character getting a bigger bonus than the non-obedient characters. At least, thats how it works for me.

Some screenshots to illustrate:
non-obedient
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obedient
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No, I think you probably missunderstood how the skill "Leadership" worked.
Just like some other DnD games, the Leadership aura doesn't effect its provider.

For example, if there are two characters in your team, one is called A and another is called B. Here are some actual facts:
Situation 1:
A: 0 point, B: 1 point
Aura: A gets +1 Leadership effect, B gets nothing;

Situation 2:
A: 1 point, B: 2 points
Aura: A gets +2 Leadership effect, B gets +1 Leadership effect.

Now Let the situation become more complicated:
If both of them get +1 Righteous, then:
Situation 3:
A: 0 point & + 1 bonus, B: 1 point +1 & bonus
Aura: A gets +2 Leadership effect, B gets +1 Leadership effect;

A: 1 point & + 1 bonus, B: 2 point +1 & bonus
Aura: A gets +3 Leadership effect, B gets +2 Leadership effect.

Why I reported this is a bug is because the trait "Obedient" will never take any effect on the Leadership skill - there's no bonus or EXTRA bonus at all.

So, the key problem is not about an EXTRA bonus, but about BONUS.

By the way, Obedient worked correctly in the last version, why should the developers change its function? The patch notes haven't mentioned it. As an IT guy, I can fully understand that bugs will hardly disappear. Their inner game tests may haved work though most of the details but not all, so that's why we are here, discussing the probable bugs.

Last edited by aimend; 18/05/14 04:21 AM.