But, the starting weapons dont have anything except cosmetic value.
I disagree.
The most you can use them in tutorial cave and the first fight..
I disagree.
What else could one say to such stellar counter arguments but
Shield loot tables aren't set up correctly - obviously. As many other equipment categories - especially in this new version.
Speculation, unfortunately. Shields have been like that since alpha. With less than a month from launch I'm not expecting much to change here and can only report what I see now.
Several shields can be found very easily at the very start of the game. One is always in the western beach, you can trade with Arhu right at the gate and you can find five or six just going through first most obvious locations in the game.
FACT.
While what you are splurging there is nothing but some infantile speculation.
If youre buying skill books then its your won fault and choice to stick with the very first weapon you got. Especially if you are a mage or a hybrid with any spell abilities - which makes weapons pointless for that build.
I disagree. I don't understand how it can be classified as "your own fault" either, as every player is going to spend their gold differently and there is no right (or wrong) way to do this.
WTF do you disagree with?
That mages dont need weapons?
That if a player decides to spend all of his money on skill books and doesn't buy better weapons that its his own choice? Therefore his "own fault"?
What right or wrong?
If you play the city to get a few levels before engaging in any combat - then its your own fault and choice - and then you dont need any weapon at all - which makes the starting weapon choice completely pointless.
I disagree. Again, you're also using that "your own fault" phrase oddly. There is no right or wrong way to advance through the story. One is not "at fault" for adventuring in Cyseal before moving out into the wilds beyond it.
You again simply say "i disagree" like some parrot and then switch to how a simple play of words non related to those points and facts "makes you feel" - like anyone gives a fuck about your feelings.
Its only a play or words meaning - if you play like that then its your own choice!
Because the game provides more then enough loot to sell and buy all the skill books and all the equipment you may need at the start. If you dont use that - its your own godamn fault.
Additionally you just disagreed with your own previous post to which that reply of mine was replying.
:lol:
THIS ONE:
I tend not to buy equipment from vendors early on in the game, as the rate of advancement doesn't make it worth it (that and the fact that you can go from level 2-4 within the city without ever seeing combat, making gear upgrades pointless as anything you buy at level 2 can easily be trivialized by the right level 4 drop).
HAHAHAHA.
You see? Here, you yourself stated that leveling up makes previous gear pointless - while you also claimed that the starting gear is so important for you and disagreed with me saying that leveling up makes starting gear pointless.
HAHA.
You deserve a special darwin award.
Additionally getting two levels up means you will either find a much better weapons as you are solving all those city quests and looting everything around - or earn more then enough money to buy better equipment which will then be present in traders inventories.
I disagree. It depends on RNG luck and your spending priorities.
Which is not true as i have demonstrated and as anyone can see for themselves.
FACT.
Additionally, most builds start with appropriate weapons
I disagree. "Appropriate" is also the wrong term here. Your idea of a "knight" may be a character with a two-handed sword, where as mine is a character with a one-handed sword and shield. Neither is inappropriate. This is supposed to be a classless game, after all.[/quote]
Youre still spinning around that "appropriate or not" that you failed to understand ?
I said most builds (PRESET "CLASSES") start with appropriate weapons - AS THEY DO.
That does not mean some players builds and choices are appropriate and other are not.
So your Knight with 1 point in single weapons can use the twohander big sword and you have a companion and help from legionaries in the first fight.
It's not a question of can he, it's a question of wanting to use what fits my concept of my character. It's also a matter of already having a convoluted means of achieving that (as I described twice now) but looking for a more streamlined solution to be implemented from the developers (i.e. letting us choose our starting equipment during character creation).
Also, I think we may have different definitions of "pointless", as you are frequently using it to describe things that are not pointless.
In this game - you can get whatever weapon you want before you reach level 2, before or at most as you come to the city gates.
