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Why don't you tell me exactly what it is you think I'm "arguing"?

You should probably go back and actually read the thread before answering that, by the way.

This thread... what... I don't even...

I also missed some KS'es. There were physical versions of some games I skipped due to shipping. I've paid more for some games than others. I've bought games double (physical, cheap Steamcopy).

It all happens. What's the big deal here. If you use Steam, you pretty well know what you're doing, right?

All the info is there if you read the thread to follow the discussion rather than relying on a handful of random posts.

Your other questions have already been addressed in the thread, for example. Seriously, reiterating the same responses over and over for everyone who comes in and asks for a new summary is why this thread is 5 pages long now in the first place.

funny your reaction, shall I remind you what you told me about the information in the KS campaign?

Sure!

Although, make sure to explain how/why you feel it is relevant to my "reaction". Just quoting random comments isn't going to help anyone who is already struggling to follow this conversation.

because you are doing exactly the same : every information about a collector edition were in the videos, updates and forum topics and you complained that it is a shitload of info and you cannot sort out what was relevant for you.
same same, why should we have to tell the info over and over again, especially considering that some info that might be relevant for you will be useless for another player

Let me make sure I have your position straight.

- You insisted that SEA backers should have known a physical CE would be available outside of Kickstarter because (apparently) this information was delivered during a livestream somewhere prior to the game being released on SEA.

- I reminded you that SEA backers inquired about a physical CE when the Divinity : OS was first put up for early access on Steam, but those inquiries were never responded to. I also pointed out the sheer number of videos (51+) available at that time. I suggested that I thought it was unreasonable to expect people to pour through that many videos looking for answer you say is hidden in there.

- You are now comparing *that* to my recent complaint directed at the posters who won't take the time to read through a mere 4 pages of a thread before diving into this conversation and 1) making the wrong assumptions out of ignorance and 2) are asking questions that have already been answered (in this thread) repeatedly.

Well.. that's just silly. You are really falling back on strawman tactics now, just so you know. Are there any other abstract points you'd like to pick at? For some reason people seem more interested in attacking some made up complaint rather than focusing on the actual point I expressed my disappointment over many pages ago (another reason this topic has become unnecessarily bloated, as I waste time trying to (repeatedly) set this very avoidable confusion straight). If only people would take more time to read *and* comprehend what was actually written, this would have been so much simpler.

Essentially, a few of you are throwing a crap-storm because I said "I wish the whole "selling of the game" had been handled better. "Better" in this case doesn't mean "right" or "properly", it just means "better than it was". I would have liked to have seen additional upgrade options.". It would seem, however, that we're not allowed to be disappointed about anything on these forums or someone somewhere will have a cow.

And, yes, that is aimed at every poster in this thread who marched in here and threw up their arms in disgust while posting something akin to "WTF?? I don't even.. Is this happening?? You ungrateful SOB..!". Congratulations on your extreme overreactions to a simple opinion.

This was not related to what you said regarding to the CE, as I said I would have like that there would have been a way to upgrade your pledge, about that I agree with you.
However I disagree on the fact that SEA buyers WORTH a discount to have the game at the same price than KS backers (I won't go further again) AND that the CE was a complete surprise !! no it was not.



you don't say !! well I won't repeat again what I said about your opinion about relevant information etc... but just using the search engine on the forum, I am sure you could have found information about the CE edition and that woul take you less time than reading 4 pages of a topic
This is more your reaction which made me smile than an actual "perosnnal crusade" against you.

But if it please you to think that EVERY KS backers are against you, feel free to think so

So, can somebody summarize what this thread is about?

Whining...

In other news (I don't want to make a new thread) I bought 3 Divinity games AGAIN (even if already having them on GOG) in the Humble Bundie... for some reason. Darn you Larian!

That's all...

Assuming you're serious, let's see..

Someone was upset that there was no upgrade path for the Collectors Edition for those that already owned the game through Steam Early Access. This sort of complaint is new and may possibly pop up more often in the future because, let's face it, it really wasn't so long ago that we weren't able to buy and play games before they actually launched. Now that's changed, and with those changes come uncharted territory and new hitches to sort out.

I suggested that I too wished the sale of the game had been handled better (more upgrade paths, earlier details regarding the CE, etc).

The developers hopped into the discussion long enough to let us know a Digital CE would be available for Steam Users to upgrade to.

Several people got really upset that this thread even existed. This resulted in opinions being repeated several dozen times for clarity, although clarity seems to be hopeless at this point.

That about sums it up, I think.

If you follow their blogs etc. the fact that they didn't have an option for an upgrade to Collector's, or a discounted price if you already have purchased the game, is contrary to what they preach. Their business model is about their fan base and to not have any option for those who 'supported' the game while it was being created is disheartening/disappointing.

I understand too that there had been an announcement about an upgrade for Early Access Steam Accounts but announcing it and actually do it. Are two separate things. (Color me impressed once they have implemented it)

OK stop, Larian are a small independent developer composed of a few dozen guys so it takes time to get everything lined up and ready for launch....they don't have a PR army and hundreds of people. Have patience, there's still weeks to go before release and that's really the only time being unable to upgrade would have any meaningful impact on you.

Honestly, when a developer comes out and says they have a limited number of copies available to the public (1500 in this case) it really makes sense to have all the details available at the same time (like the digital CE pricing and contents). Because while people are waiting for information on the latter to make a decision, quantity on the former is draining away. That's going to stress some gamers out.

This is one of the things I'm talking about when I stated that I wished the selling of the game had been handled better. I know, I know.. how dare I be offensive with those opinions and all that.

Unfortunately they got caught out by the dice situation so now they have to send hundreds of apology letters and offer refunds all while still talking to GOG and figure out the upgrade business with Steam for SEA buyers and so on. Not to mention still ironing out all the bugs to get the game ready for release and needing to sort out the derailed copy of the game that needs to get age rating. Ideally yes, it would be optimal for people to know all about both CEs before jumping without risk of being left without the game but unfortunately this is life, things aren't simple and complications happen.

Oh, I wasn't serious.

See, that's how threads become unnecessarily bloated.

Not really.

If you want a physical box, you can go for it... or not.
If you want to know the Digital CE cost... you probably aren't looking for the physical box in the first place and should just aim for that, so you get all that you *do* want.

Guess I am going to have to create a second steam account to add my CE to ti :P
Was hoping I could upgrade my DOS version :P